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Thumbing Its Nose at U.S., Russia Sends Military Experts to Iraq
The Atlantic Wire via Yahoo! ^ | Adam Chandler

Posted on 06/29/2014 10:14:31 AM PDT by wetphoenix

After the United States delayed a sale of fighter jets to Iraq, Russia sold planes to the Iraqi government. Now they've sent military experts to Baghdad. 

Gen. Anwar Hama Ameen, who heads the Iraqi air force, explained that the secondhand jets would quickly be deployed in the government's fight against the Sunni extremist group ISIS.

In the coming three or four days the aircraft will be in service to support our forces in the fight.”  Ameen also said that the presence of Russian military experts would be short-lived. Nevertheless, here's how Rod Nordland characterized the development:

The move was at least an implicit rebuke to the United States, where concerns in Congress about the political viability of Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki’s government have stalled sales of advanced jet and helicopter combat planes to Iraq." 

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Russia
KEYWORDS: iran; iraq; islam; obama; russia; su25; syria

1 posted on 06/29/2014 10:14:31 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: wetphoenix

Obama ‘has warned’ Putin to stay out of Iraq. Putin’s action asks Obama “What are YOU going to do about it, Mister American President?”


2 posted on 06/29/2014 10:18:17 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: wetphoenix

Putin has a lot of gonads compared to the feckless fool on the hill.


3 posted on 06/29/2014 10:18:59 AM PDT by Fungi
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To: wetphoenix

So are they going to get together with U.S. experts and share ideas? World peace breaking out soon, thanks to Obama!


4 posted on 06/29/2014 10:19:19 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Fungi

We are such a generous nation, turning over the vast oil fields in Iraq to Putin. But, our feckless fool has always been in Russia’s pocket.


5 posted on 06/29/2014 10:24:09 AM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: lee martell

““What are YOU going to do about it, Mister American President?””

“I’ll threaten to hold my breath.”


6 posted on 06/29/2014 10:24:28 AM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: lee martell
Good let the Russians die in that stink-hole.
7 posted on 06/29/2014 10:26:44 AM PDT by pleasenotcalifornia
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To: Fungi
Putin has a lot of gonads compared to the feckless fool on the hill.

Geopolitics is a game best played by serious men (and women).

Our guy qualified for Pep Club...

8 posted on 06/29/2014 10:27:50 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance on parThe whole affair remains a fascinating storyade.)
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To: wetphoenix

Obama is a DUD!


9 posted on 06/29/2014 10:27:52 AM PDT by El Zoro
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To: wetphoenix
I am guessing that the Russian military advisers are pilots who will fly the used jets in close air support. Now does this really upset Obama or is he pleased at a further diminution of the US?
10 posted on 06/29/2014 10:27:58 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: wetphoenix
As I said before. Putin is a man of action whereas Obama is just talk.


11 posted on 06/29/2014 10:28:29 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Forgive but don't forget)
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To: wetphoenix

Our friends don’t trust us - our enemies don’t fear us... what could go wrong?


12 posted on 06/29/2014 10:29:57 AM PDT by GOPJ (Why no outrage over IRS targeting? Same reason Pravda didn't make a stink about gulags.FREnterprise)
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To: wetphoenix

Until the wholesale carpet bombing of the region commences, the US will be called gutless and weak. After the bombing, the US will be called heartless butchers. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. At least the damned won’t have to worry about a bunch of crazy muslim jihadis stabbing them in the back anymore, after the bombings that is.


13 posted on 06/29/2014 10:29:58 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: okie01

Pep Club? This feckless fool didn’t make it off the bench in little league.


14 posted on 06/29/2014 10:29:58 AM PDT by Fungi
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To: wetphoenix

The Russians are seizing a rare strategic opportunity. They realize that the ISIL fighters are dangerously overextended. They have Hezbollah fighters and Syrian air harrassing their rear and strafing their supply convoys. Fierce Kurd who will hold and are anxious to seize more territory are on their center flank. The Iraqi army bolstered by enthusiastic Shi’ite militia are stopping their advance outside of Baghdad. The Russians know that with strategic leadership, logistics and coordination, a counterattack would put the ISIL fighters in a vise. Given their barbaric behavior and the customs of the region , they would be slaughtered mercilessly. Russia has a strong national interest to see ISIL destroyed. If Syria comes under the rule if fundamentalist Muslims, it will become a haven and a base for the jihadists who are causing mayhem in southern Russia. Putin is not playing checkers.


15 posted on 06/29/2014 10:30:07 AM PDT by allendale
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To: Rusty0604
so are they going to get together with US experts and share ideas

That wouldn't be a bad idea. Get together the military assigned to Iraq from US, Russia, Syria, Iran, others who have an interest in world sanity. Let them figure out how to get rid of ISIS which is a threat to everyone.

They're the ones who end up dead or maimed, not the pols making the decisions. Egypt's milirary showed how it's done when faced with an out-of-control fanatical government.

16 posted on 06/29/2014 10:30:17 AM PDT by grania
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To: allendale

A Russian flag soon over the Baghdad embassy we paid 750 million to build? Nothing would surprise me anymore.


17 posted on 06/29/2014 10:38:01 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: wetphoenix

Iraq was a client state of Russia prior to the US invasion of Iraq. After the freeing of Kuwait and the retreating Iraqi were being decimated on the highway between Kuwait and Iraq, a number of Russians were counted among the dead. They had been advisors to the Iraqi. And the Iraqi equipment was Russian made. The Russians are picking up from where there once were, IMO.


18 posted on 06/29/2014 10:43:23 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: wetphoenix
This might be Hillary's single foreign relations success!


19 posted on 06/29/2014 10:50:00 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: wetphoenix

Nature abhors a vacuum.

The Russians are merely fulfilling a need. The territory now known as Iraq needs an outside agency to set things right, and Russians have few compunctions about helping out the Shi’ites (and thus indirectly, Iran), and to putting a pinch on the ISIL-ISIS because they are also waging atrocities on the Bashar al-Assad regime in Syria, another vassal state that is more or less under the protective wing of the Russians.

Meanwhile Iraq continues to spin apart into what will be essentially three countries. One will be a vassal state to Iran, if not actually annexed. One will be the Levantine Caliphate, carved out of Syria and central Iraq, and the third will be the nucleus of the republic of Kurdistan, which may also have territory taken from Turkey, Iran, Syria and other smaller provinces immediately adjacent.

The Ottoman Empire may yet be resurrected, but as long as Sunnis are in daily combat with Shi’ites, that possibility will remain shelved.


20 posted on 06/29/2014 10:52:39 AM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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To: wetphoenix

Nature abhors a vacuum, Barry; figure it out.


21 posted on 06/29/2014 10:52:57 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The Arab Spring is over. Welcome to the Jihadi Spring." Jonah Goldberg)
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To: pleasenotcalifornia

Many if not most American deaths in Iraq (and Afghanistan) can be traced back to the Rules of Engagement — Russian soldiers won’t be similarly encumbered.


22 posted on 06/29/2014 11:09:11 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: wetphoenix

Bashir al-Assad has been using air power against jihadi terrorists for more than three years in Syria’s civil war, yet he hasn’t defeated them yet.

In fact, the Syrian government’s air force has even been dropping chemical bombs to try to defeat the terrorists, still to no avail.

Al Qaeda and ISIS members are not ordinary soldiers who might surrender if the going gets rough. They’re fanatics who believe they’re on a mission for Allah. Their funds are increasing each day as they rob more banks; and their numbers are increasing as their exploits become more public and more maniacs are attracted to their cause.

A few Russian aircraft are not going to save the day for Iraq. All they’ll do is turn the Iraq war into a full-blown extension of the endless Syrian civil war.

Why would Vladimir Putin want such a thing? To create a distraction from his planned invasion of the Ukraine? To cause oil prices to rise so that Russia’s energy supplies become more valuable? Whatever the reason, we know it’s not to provide a victory for Nuri al-Maliki with a ticker-tape parade through Baghdad, since Putin is not delusional enough to believe such a thing is possible.


23 posted on 06/29/2014 11:17:48 AM PDT by Bluestocking
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To: elpadre
Russia lost a bundle in the Iraq war. Billions in contracts.

And Russia played an important part in the negotiations after the Iraq/Kuwait war and prior to the Iraq war of 2003.

I think the solution is 3 separate countries. If they want to go into agreements beyond that...fine.

24 posted on 06/29/2014 11:19:48 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: lee martell
“What are YOU going to do about it, Mister American President?”

I don't know how to say "Dither" in Russian, but I'm sure Pootie-Poot does....

25 posted on 06/29/2014 11:21:58 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (It ain't a "hashtag"....it's a damn pound sign. ###)
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To: wetphoenix

Good Let Putey spend a gazillion rubles and get his troops azzes shot off for nothing. Knock yourself out Vlad.


26 posted on 06/29/2014 11:45:15 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: pleasenotcalifornia
Good let the Russians die in that stink-hole.

they have a different STRATEGIC mission than American soldiers would. I just don't see russian military officers and nco's brought up on charges when they respond to attacks.

They have someone in charge that doesn't mind saying "yeah, we want YOU to control the oil fields , Mr Iraqi leader. But we want to control YOU. " So there you have it.

Putin controls energy to Europe and now has a finger in the mid-east pie to put the squeeze on the rest of the energy supplies of the world. Meanwhile our EPA and idiot in chief are busy arguing about snail darters and bugs that backlog our refinery and oil/Natural gas pipelines and energy independence with regulations and faux environmental arguments.

Once again, Putin playing chess and Obamalamadingdong playing with his poopy diaper and other little boys.

27 posted on 06/29/2014 12:19:58 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: pleasenotcalifornia

They won’t have their hands tied by soetoro’ ROEs.


28 posted on 06/29/2014 12:41:38 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where?)
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To: Eagles6

Ain’t that the truth. LOL!


29 posted on 06/29/2014 12:42:32 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: wetphoenix
Putin Spies Obama Working Out
30 posted on 06/29/2014 1:17:25 PM PDT by Fear The People (When the government fears the people, you have LIBERTY.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Honestly, I think that is fanciful thinking as well. 3 separate countries may have been possible before 2011, but not now. ISIS isn’t going to accept such a grand bargain or agreement...that is not their goal.

Their goal is a caliphate and as Muslim extremists, nothing less is acceptable.


31 posted on 06/30/2014 3:02:03 AM PDT by EBH (And the head wound was healed, and Gog became man.)
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To: Dick Vomer

Another reason for Russia to go in there is that Iraq has oil and nat gas. If Putin is able to button up all that oil, then he has even more leverage over Europe.
And he doesn’t have to be concerned about Obama.
He is pre occupied.


32 posted on 06/30/2014 3:42:16 AM PDT by Texas resident (The democrat party is the CPUSA)
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To: All

Why should USA give/sell high quality jets to Iraq? Do some want ISIS to have these too? Wake up to what is happening... this day is not yester years.


33 posted on 06/30/2014 7:24:33 AM PDT by veracious
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To: wetphoenix

Russkies are producing some good propaganda with the gifts of the SU-25s to the Shiite government. But little do the stoopind Ruskkies and Arabs no that ground support aircraft have no purpose in today’s war enviroments according to America’s strategic geniuses who are cannibalizing everything to get the F-35 Edsel off the ground.


34 posted on 06/30/2014 7:37:26 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: junta

It seems English is my third language, sorry.


35 posted on 06/30/2014 7:39:02 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: lee martell
Sadly, our best military experts today specialize in the type of fuscia push-up bra transgenders should wear for tri-color formation...
36 posted on 06/30/2014 7:44:25 AM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: wetphoenix

Your president is a pencil neck geek.

37 posted on 06/30/2014 7:47:44 AM PDT by McGruff (It's not the crime, it's the cover-up they said.)
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To: Fungi
The girly boy obozo never sat on any bench, never was involved in little league, unless he and a boyfriend were sitting on one. Girly boy sure as hell can't throw a ball. The best he can do is shoot baskets, which he likes to do. He use to do pick up basketball games in the parks in Chicago back in the day, in order to meet and pick up guys for sexual partners. It's all on Google.
And he loves to play golf..with little balls, about the size of his own cahones. He's a limp-wristed fop, a guy who wears mom jeans, rides a girl's bike while wearing his little helmet. The only club affiliation in his high school days was probably The Chum Club...I think that's what they call it. obozo loves his drugs AND himself the most.
38 posted on 06/30/2014 7:48:15 AM PDT by itssme
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To: wetphoenix
Russia taking sides in an Islamic civil war might not be a very good long term strategy. Russia is siding with the Persians (Shiite) against the Arabs (Sunni). Well see how that works out for them.

Sitting the war out at least for the time being seems to be the wisest thing to do now that this administration has thrown away all the gains previously made in Iraq.

39 posted on 06/30/2014 8:22:06 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: Fungi
Pep Club? This feckless fool didn’t make it off the bench in little league.

OUCH!

Jesus Christ: You can’t impeach Him and He ain’t gonna resign.




40 posted on 07/01/2014 12:51:21 AM PDT by rdb3 (Get out the putter, this one's on the green.)
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To: pleasenotcalifornia

That sinkhole contains billions of bbls of oil.. As sinkholes go, it is not that bad.


41 posted on 07/02/2014 9:24:28 AM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat
We are such a generous nation, turning over the vast oil fields in Iraq to Putin. But, our feckless fool has always been in Russia’s pocket.

Over 80% of Iraq's exports go to Asia and Europe. You want us to go back in and defend region's oil supply?

42 posted on 07/02/2014 9:34:41 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: junta
Russkies are producing some good propaganda with the gifts of the SU-25s to the Shiite government

Gifts? I believe that Iraq is paying half a billion dollars for a dozen SU-25s that have probably been in storage for 15 years.

43 posted on 07/02/2014 9:37:05 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Putting that income stream in Putin’s pocket may not be such a great idea.


44 posted on 07/02/2014 5:16:37 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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