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To: mrsmel

I think people aren’t reading what Parker is saying.

She seems to be saying that there’s an untapped vein of Conservatism within the Black community, and McDaniels screwed up by not appealing to these Conservative blacks on Conservative issues.

I’ve read the article twice, and that sure seems like what she’s saying.

She’s NOT making the argument that McDaniels should have done things to flip the Black votes that went for Cochrane, but that there were Black Conservatives who didn’t vote that he could, and should, have targeted.

That’s fair, in my opinion. I know, am friends with, a number of Black Conservatives. They all say that the GOP, Conservatives and Tea Party would see a significant increase in support if they’d actually do a good lrvel of outreach. Parker cites stats showing that 25% of Blacks think favorably of the Tea Party. Does anyone not know what kind of impact it would have if we could get that 25% out and voting for our candidates?


53 posted on 06/30/2014 5:46:40 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: tanknetter

Cochran didn’t appeal to it either, he actually “blamed” conservarives dor obstructing Obama, implying that he won’t. I don’t see anything praise-worthy in that.


54 posted on 06/30/2014 5:48:53 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: tanknetter
The only way blacks are going to be conservative is if blacks make other blacks see it for themselves. They only want our money.

For how many years must we hear of this crap? We spend money on their schools they crap on them. We give them food all they do is complain. Give them free housing they crap on it. Sick of it. I can send a kid to school but I can't read for them. They either rise or stay in the sewer. We can't make them do anything. They will not listen to any white person.

56 posted on 06/30/2014 5:53:18 AM PDT by defconw (LUTFA!)
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To: tanknetter

At what point does anyone hold these alleged black conservatives to account that the information is available that there is an alternative to the liberal standard.

This is the same ol’ stale mantra we hear every single election; that it is the REPUBLICANS that are always to blame for blacks not voting conservative. That is total bullcrap. There have been many instances where “conservatives” showed up at black churches, etc., or talked to the NAACP to encourage blacks to vote and it falls on deaf ears.

This is the crap that has to stop: that we, as a society, create victims and then completely let them off the hook to have to be responsible for anything. I’m sick of it.

If blacks are conservative then, by God, they need to vote conservative. Not vote liberal because no one courted them.


62 posted on 06/30/2014 6:02:54 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: tanknetter
think people aren’t reading what Parker is saying.

My thought as well. I am not sure what that "outreach" looks like, though. Conservatives have to find each other. A thing that bothers me is reflected in thinking of black Americans as a monolith.

Yes, Voting stats show that. But, accepting that as irrevocable and unchangable is a loser's mindset. If I were a black Conservative reading some of these comments, I would wonder how welcome I would be.

64 posted on 06/30/2014 6:07:40 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: tanknetter
"Tea Party would see a significant increase in support if they’d actually do a good lrvel of outreach"

What does that mean by 'outreach" Is the conservative message not something that can stand alone? Specifically how do you 'outreach'? You aren't suggesting we use race are you?

82 posted on 06/30/2014 6:51:24 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: tanknetter

‘I think people aren’t reading what Parker is saying.

She seems to be saying that there’s an untapped vein of Conservatism within the Black community, and McDaniels screwed up by not appealing to these Conservative blacks on Conservative issues.

I’ve read the article twice, and that sure seems like what she’s saying.

She’s NOT making the argument that McDaniels should have done things to flip the Black votes that went for Cochrane, but that there were Black Conservatives who didn’t vote that he could, and should, have targeted.

That’s fair, in my opinion. I know, am friends with, a number of Black Conservatives. They all say that the GOP, Conservatives and Tea Party would see a significant increase in support if they’d actually do a good lrvel of outreach. Parker cites stats showing that 25% of Blacks think favorably of the Tea Party. Does anyone not know what kind of impact it would have if we could get that 25% out and voting for our candidates?’

The essence of this argument is that blacks are stupid. Not mildly stupid, but sack of hammers stupid. I.e.: w’out ‘outreach’ they cannot figure out that Democrats are the party glorifying every aspect—even the nastiest, most unsafe ones—of homosexuality, while not merely safeguarding but also ***glorifying*** baby killing. They cannot see for themselves that Dems are rabidly anti-God—despite that vulgar display of Christian-hatred at the Dems’ own convention. It goes on and on.

Who on earth is that stupid? It’s an insane, insulting argument. I used to be a Dem. No one, but No One, ‘reached out’ to me. I DUH figured it out for myself. As I was drifting toward conservatism, the Dem party had the peddle to the metal in their race toward Moonbat-Idiot-Far-Left-Lunacy (loonacy works just as well). I didn’t need a single person to enable me to see this. All I had to do was read as much of a major newspaper ea day as I could tolerate. The truth jumped off the pp and grabbed me in a hammerlock.

Why do so many people—including some blacks—assume black people/other blacks cannot do likewise? They most assuredly can. & trust me, they know. They KNOW the Dems are the party of Homosexuality, baby-butchery, sexual debauchery & Christianity-hatred. But they vote Dem anyway. ‘Outreach’ is not going to change that. It is their decision. Just as, at one time, it was my decision. I could have gritted my teeth—or simply closed my eyes—to the leftward lurch of the Dem party, & gone on voting ‘D’ indefinitely. But I didn’t want to. The moonbattery got to be too much for me. I walked away & never regretted it.

Blacks could do the same if they wanted to. They don’t want to. Unlike me, they have an affinity with the Dem party that has no bearing on social conservatism. & if you need someone to tell you what this affinity is, look no further than Cochran’s ‘outreach’ to blacks. He persuaded hardcore, dyed-in-the-wool lifelong Dems to vote GOP—illegally—one time & one time only. (In Nov. they’ll revert to form.) He pushed every one of their buttons. Those buttons mean far more than any ‘outreach’ conservatives can mount.

& that is way this article is an insulting waste of time.


83 posted on 06/30/2014 6:57:40 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: tanknetter

Unlike many in here you actually read what she wrote and did not jump to unnecessary conclusions


93 posted on 06/30/2014 7:15:09 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: tanknetter

Finally some sanity. That is of course the point she is making. And it’s not like McDaniel would have had to have won the entire black vote. Just swaying a few thousand would have worked.

Getting pretty tired of all the whiny histrionics around this place.


109 posted on 06/30/2014 9:00:16 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: tanknetter
She seems to be saying that there’s an untapped vein of Conservatism within the Black community, and McDaniels screwed up by not appealing to these Conservative blacks on Conservative issues.

I used to believe that until they crossed every line in the sand in order to stand with Obama: infanticide, homosexuality, high energy prices, hostility to traditional religion, Communism, islam. They simply don't care about anything but money.

As an old school Southern Republican whose ancestors fought for the Union, I used to admire Black people. I can't tell you how much I admired them and looked up to them. I don't admire them any more.

They have nothing but dollar signs in their eyes. They're worse than any greedy Republican capitalist pig that ever lived when it comes to worship of the almighty dollar. This is someone to be admired or courted?

I'm poor. There are lots of poor white people who vote "against their interests" because they can't stomach the Left's war on G-d A-mighty. But some other poor people have sold out and are implicated in it. And one day they will pay . . . not at the hand of any human being, but at the Hand of the G-d they sold for money.

188 posted on 06/30/2014 12:21:50 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Throne and Altar! [In Jerusalem!!!])
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