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In New Poll, Marriage Equality Beats Religious Objections
First Amendment Center ^ | 6/24/14 | Charles C. Haynes

Posted on 06/30/2014 8:08:04 AM PDT by koanhead

A solid majority of Americans now support equal treatment for same-sex couples despite religious objections, according to the State of the First Amendment survey released this week by the First Amendment Center.

Sixty-one percent of respondents agree that the government should require religiously affiliated groups that receive government funding to provide health-care benefits to same-sex partners of employees – even when the religious group opposes same-sex marriage.

And 54% of the public agree that a business providing wedding services to the public should be required to serve same-sex couples, even if the business owner objects to gay marriage on religious grounds.

These findings are consistent with the dramatic rise in public support for gay marriage – 59% in a recent ABC News/Washington Post survey (75% among those under 30).

What’s somewhat surprising, however, is the strength of that support in the face of religious objections. When the first legal same-sex marriage was performed in Massachusetts 10 years ago, conservative religious groups were able to mobilize voters to approve laws and constitutional amendments in many states – including deep-blue California – banning gay marriage.

Now the tide has turned – not only in the courts (bans on same-sex marriage in Indiana and Utah were struck down just this week), but also in the court of public opinion.

While gay marriage remains unpopular in some red states, many conservative politicians and religious leaders have toned down the rhetoric as the public continues to migrate toward support for marriage equality.

Early in the debate, religious objectors to same-sex marriage appeared to enjoy broad public support for their efforts to secure religious exceptions to laws prohibiting discrimination based on sexual orientation. That may no longer be the case....

(Excerpt) Read more at firstamendmentcenter.org ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gaymarriage; gayrights; marriage; religion
Presented without comment as a data point re current trends.
1 posted on 06/30/2014 8:08:04 AM PDT by koanhead
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To: koanhead

When a people look to Government....as their authority.....these things happen!


2 posted on 06/30/2014 8:10:39 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: koanhead

convoluted conclusion


3 posted on 06/30/2014 8:11:09 AM PDT by knarf (brooklyn bridge)
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To: koanhead

This may well be accurate. The country is done for, finished, and not just because of a small handful of elitists. Instead, the elitists have won over the people they have indoctrinated through their schools and their mass media, and the American family - the only bulwark against totalitarian government - has gone down the tubes.


4 posted on 06/30/2014 8:12:36 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: koanhead

Do the Americans believe people who marry animals should have free vet care?


5 posted on 06/30/2014 8:12:50 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps.)
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To: VerySadAmerican
Do the Americans believe people who marry animals should have free vet care?

Not yet - but that's next.

6 posted on 06/30/2014 8:14:23 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: grobdriver

You beat me to it,


7 posted on 06/30/2014 8:16:29 AM PDT by snowtigger
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To: MeshugeMikey
And 54% of the public agree that a business providing wedding services to the public should be required to serve same-sex couples, even if the business owner objects to gay marriage on religious grounds.

So, basically if you extrapolate this, anyone open for business to the public has no right to object to anything.

8 posted on 06/30/2014 8:16:37 AM PDT by Right Brother
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To: madprof98

Yep, critical masses of people now believe in homosexual marriage.

The Supreme Court will take up the case of homosexual marriage again in the next few years. And they will probably rule that there is a constitutional right to homosexual marriage, and order 50 state same-sex marriage. All court cases on marriage since the June 2013 Supreme Court rulings have been in favor of homosexual marriage. It’s hard to see the Supreme Court overturn every single lower court on the subject. Especially when their own rulings opened the door to homosexual marriage through court order.


9 posted on 06/30/2014 8:19:14 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: Right Brother

That has long been the government position. You can’t choose who to rent ....


10 posted on 06/30/2014 8:19:31 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: snowtigger

And I’m sure it was unspoken/unwritten in a thousand more minds...


11 posted on 06/30/2014 8:20:03 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: koanhead

Does that mean our laws beat Sharia laws?


12 posted on 06/30/2014 8:20:07 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda¬óDivide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: koanhead

When are they going to allow a vote by the people to stand? They win I court, they generally lose at the ballot box!


13 posted on 06/30/2014 8:20:15 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: koanhead

Time for our own country ...


14 posted on 06/30/2014 8:20:43 AM PDT by 11th_VA (Decriminalize Tax Evasion)
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To: koanhead

Till using the ole bandwagon approach to convince everybody that sodomy for your kids is the new normal. Sorry not buying it. You guys are freaks and pedophiles. What other reason could there possibly be to force the BSA to admit gay children into scouting and say there won’t being any gay scout leaders after millions protested in outrage then turn around not even a year after you succeed at that and then push for having gay scout leaders again? Huh? Sounds like you have a hardon to get a bunch of young boy scouts into a tent in the middle of the woods far removed from their parents. Now why would that be?


15 posted on 06/30/2014 8:23:03 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

Still using the ole bandwagon approach to convince everybody that sodomy for your kids is the new normal. Sorry not buying it. You guys are freaks and pedophiles. What other reason could there possibly be to force the BSA to admit gay children into scouting and say there won’t being any gay scout leaders after millions protested in outrage then turn around not even a year after you succeed at that and then push for having gay scout leaders again? Huh? Sounds like you have a hardon to get a bunch of young boy scouts into a tent in the middle of the woods far removed from their parents. Now why would that be?


16 posted on 06/30/2014 8:23:51 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Right Brother

Thats right.

The “customer”may be a raving Psychotic....but the rule says that the “customer” is now ......always right

the alleged “equality” machine....has trumped reason ..FOR THE MOMENT!


17 posted on 06/30/2014 8:25:20 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: grobdriver
“’Do the Americans believe people who marry animals should have free vet care?’
Not yet - but that's next.”

No! Polygamy and polyandry are next. Followed by the rationale that pedophiles are ‘born that way’ so they should be allowed to abuse children at their desires and the age of consent should be lowered to allow for legal access to pubescent children by sexually dysfunctional adults.

(As a side note, virtually every male homosexual is an Ephebophile. They want to get their hands of pubescent boys.)

Then, formal recognition of the physical love between man and beast as natural and beautiful, just like the acts of Sodomites.

18 posted on 06/30/2014 8:25:40 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Over 50% of the American public believes that Abortion should be restricted in MOST cases. Yet, there are virtually NO restrictions on abortion.

So who gives a good G.D. about what the American people think. Certainly not the Federal Government and the SCOTUS!


19 posted on 06/30/2014 8:28:37 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: MeshugeMikey
the alleged “equality” machine....has trumped reason ..FOR THE MOMENT!

I don't think there is any way to move to the next moment without a radical change in the structure of the country. The only question is whether that will be imposed from without or from within.

20 posted on 06/30/2014 8:29:23 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: koanhead

Consider the source. I wouldn’t trust any numbers coming out of the First Amendment Center.


21 posted on 06/30/2014 8:29:39 AM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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To: Jim from C-Town
Heh.
Sounds like you've got it all planned out.

Me, I'm only interested in hot babes.

22 posted on 06/30/2014 8:35:51 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: madprof98

The appropriation of the words Equal and Equality by the forces of un-reason and evil is a done deal.

How this can be undone...is at the moment beyond me.


23 posted on 06/30/2014 8:45:41 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: koanhead

Morality ain’t determined by majority vote. It’s determined by God. Those who call Him a liar do so at their dire peril.


24 posted on 06/30/2014 8:46:23 AM PDT by afsnco
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To: koanhead
This poll represents a departure from the ruling in the Hobby Lobby case and crosses the line by compelling individuals or entities to render services which are counter to their deeply held religious views. This poll shows a majority both for those entities which take federal government money and for private businesses, such as Hobby Lobby.

This of course is the extension of homosexual rights into an area which infringes the First Amendment rights of free exercise and free association of others and serves as reinforcement to those who fear that homosexual rights to marry are merely the first skirmishes in a war on religion.


25 posted on 06/30/2014 8:50:04 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: koanhead

That “solid” majority will start melting as the consequences become more clear. Not to mention it’s probably a bogus poll to start with.


26 posted on 06/30/2014 9:55:11 AM PDT by Missouri gal
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To: koanhead

Too stupid to know they are stupid.


27 posted on 06/30/2014 10:35:10 AM PDT by WriteOn (Truth)
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To: koanhead

Thank a teacher. Value-free “education” seems to be paying off.


28 posted on 07/02/2014 6:24:25 AM PDT by Mach9
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