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Deficits Are Scary, But Spending Cuts Are Even Scarier
RCM ^ | 07/01/2014 | Ron Haskins

Posted on 07/01/2014 7:30:54 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: yorkiemom

As I mentioned, a collapse could bring something far worse in terms of a government and the loss of our liberties. A financial collapse could lead to civil strife and violence.


41 posted on 07/01/2014 8:45:17 PM PDT by kabar
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To: yorkiemom
We will just agree to disagree. When children are sent thru the public school brainwashing system along with a complementary mainstream media and entertainment industry, it shouldn't be surprising what the result will be. Add to that the disintegration of the family and you wind up with a very liberal product.

Another subject: We have two Yorkies.

42 posted on 07/01/2014 8:50:36 PM PDT by kabar
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To: cynwoody

You are correct.. However, not many people start their working life making SS’s max income. So those higher earning years replacing the lower years has some benefit.

Every case will be different. But once one has reached the point where your AIME is above the 2nd bend point, only 15% of earnings count. But you still get to pay in the full amount.

Socialism.

Best to quit paying into Big Brother at that point, IMO, if one can.


43 posted on 07/01/2014 9:41:38 PM PDT by yorkiemom
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To: kabar

“A financial collapse could lead to civil strife and violence.”

It will, no doubt. It’s the final outcome that is in question. But it would be no worse than where we are now headed.


44 posted on 07/01/2014 9:43:21 PM PDT by yorkiemom
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To: kabar

“We will just agree to disagree. When children are sent thru the public school brainwashing system along with a complementary mainstream media and entertainment industry, it shouldn’t be surprising what the result will be. Add to that the disintegration of the family and you wind up with a very liberal product.”

I did not disagree with that statement. Only that I think they are still responsible for their own actions, irregardless. Those in school in the USSR could still discern truth now and then.

With your point of view, the outcome is set. You have lots of great data, but don’t pull any conclusions from it. Other than the same hopeless inevitability that Winston had in 1984. I really don’t know what your point is since it seems to be a moving target. Just arguing isn’t enjoyable for me.

But, yorkies are the best!


45 posted on 07/01/2014 9:53:37 PM PDT by yorkiemom
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To: yorkiemom
But once one has reached the point where your AIME is above the 2nd bend point, only 15% of earnings count.

I didn't know about AIME or bend points. Thanks for educating me.

A quick google leads to this blog post by Mary Beth Franklin.

46 posted on 07/01/2014 11:56:16 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: yorkiemom
With your point of view, the outcome is set. You have lots of great data, but don’t pull any conclusions from it. Other than the same hopeless inevitability that Winston had in 1984. I really don’t know what your point is since it seems to be a moving target. Just arguing isn’t enjoyable for me.

Continuing with the status quo is a losing proposition. I thought I made it quite clear (post # 7 and #29) that we need to reform the entitlement programs, which are unsustainable and the biggest driver of our debt. We also need to reduce immigration, legal and illegal, to a trickle. In terms of conservatives winning elections, we should follow Jeff Sessions' advice:

Becoming the Party of Work -- How the GOP can help struggling Americans, and itself.

47 posted on 07/02/2014 5:48:28 AM PDT by kabar
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To: cynwoody

“For higher earners, additional years of work late in a career might not matter that much. Even if later, higher-earning years replace earlier, lower-earning years, it is likely to affect only the final bend point that includes just 15% of average monthly earnings that exceed $4,917 in the benefit calculation.”

In my hubby’s case, he’d only get about $30 more a month if he works 17 more years. And would pay in close to $200,000.
Not worth working longer for SS (but would be for his 401k). Unless Big Brother confiscates that some day.

It’s nice to see a realistic article about SS, thx. Few realize how socialized it is.


48 posted on 07/02/2014 8:12:02 PM PDT by yorkiemom
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To: Iron Munro

bump


49 posted on 07/02/2014 8:12:45 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: kabar

Yes, you did say that.


50 posted on 07/02/2014 8:13:25 PM PDT by yorkiemom
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