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Icelandic Girls Can't Be Called Harriet, Government Tells Family
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/26/iceland-strict-naming-convention-cardew-family ^

Posted on 07/01/2014 8:30:42 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Authorities reluctant to renew passport of Harriet, 10, as name is not on approved list of 3,565

You can be Aagot, Arney or Ásfríður; Baldey, Bebba or Brá. Dögg, Dimmblá, Etna and Eybjört are fine; likewise Frigg, Glódís, Hörn and Ingunn. Jórlaug works OK, as do Obba, Sigurfljóð, Úranía and – should you choose – Vagna.

But you cannot, as a girl in Iceland, be called Harriet.

"The whole situation," said Tristan Cardew, with very British understatement, "is really rather silly."

With his Icelandic wife Kristin, Cardew is appealing against a decision by the National Registry in Reykjavik not to renew their 10-year-old daughter Harriet's passport on the grounds that it does not recognise her first name.

Since the registry does not recognise the name of Harriet's 12-year-old brother Duncan either, the two children have until this year travelled on passports identifying them as Stúlka and Drengur Cardew: Girl and Boy Cardew.

"But this time, the authorities have decided to apply the letter of the law," Cardew, a British-born cook who moved to Iceland 14 years ago, told the Guardian. "And that says no official document will be issued to people who do not bear an approved Icelandic name."

The Cardews could get round Harriet's problem by giving her an Icelandic middle name. Photograph: Tristan Cardew The impasse meant the family, from Kópavogur, risked missing their holiday in France next week until they applied to the British embassy for an emergency UK passport, which should now allow them to leave.

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1 posted on 07/01/2014 8:30:42 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Talk about control!


2 posted on 07/01/2014 8:32:13 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: nickcarraway

Ozzie?


3 posted on 07/01/2014 8:34:16 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: nickcarraway
When bureaucrats have too much power..
4 posted on 07/01/2014 8:34:25 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: nickcarraway

The icelandic gubment approaches the level of bizarre that exists in Islamic “republics”


5 posted on 07/01/2014 8:35:47 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: nickcarraway

always important for the government to control everything


6 posted on 07/01/2014 8:36:34 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: nickcarraway

Approved names? Iceland is an Orwellian cesspit


7 posted on 07/01/2014 8:37:21 PM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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To: nickcarraway

Thanks to this, I shall complain a wee bit less about bureaucracy here in the US (even the DPS offices).


8 posted on 07/01/2014 8:38:47 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: nickcarraway
"But this time, the authorities have decided to apply the letter of the law," Cardew, a British-born cook who moved to Iceland 14 years ago, told the Guardian. "And that says no official document will be issued to people who do not bear an approved Icelandic name."

Well, does that preclude immigration/naturalization?
(And wouldn't a name-change also be an official document, which would have to be issued to someone who wanted to get an approved name?)

9 posted on 07/01/2014 8:40:38 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: nickcarraway

Good grief. I didn’t realize Icelanders had “the tendency”.


10 posted on 07/01/2014 8:40:54 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: nickcarraway
She looks like a Harriet. If she was my brat or grandbrat, her nickname would be Harry.

/johnny

11 posted on 07/01/2014 8:41:49 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: nickcarraway
I bet that in Iceland you can name your kid Mohammad or Fatima.

(Iceland is way behind their Nordic cousins in national-suicide-by-Muslim-migration, but I believe they have started taking the poison.)

12 posted on 07/01/2014 8:42:18 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: nickcarraway

My Great-great-great Uncle, Chrispi Anus, might have thought something along these lines was a good idea.


13 posted on 07/01/2014 8:44:47 PM PDT by JoeDetweiler
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To: nickcarraway

She looks like a young “shield maiden”. She needs to go convince these buffoons that Harriet is a good name.


14 posted on 07/01/2014 8:45:57 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The future must not belong to those who slander bacon.)
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To: Army Air Corps

In that case, I regret posting it.


15 posted on 07/01/2014 8:47:25 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Worry not, I shall still vent invective on our feckless petty bureaucrats, but I shall do so with a grain of gratitude that they are not as obtuse as those in Iceland.


16 posted on 07/01/2014 8:49:31 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Viennacon; MeshugeMikey

Many countries including Germany and Mexico have such laws.


17 posted on 07/01/2014 8:49:48 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Scratch Harriet...

wonder if Ozzie is on the approved list of boys names...?


18 posted on 07/01/2014 8:52:24 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: MeshugeMikey

According to this wiki entry about Iceland
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceland

Islam constitutes 0.26% of the affiliated faiths there out of a total population on approximately 325,000. That makes for about 845 of them.


19 posted on 07/01/2014 8:53:47 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Ed McDonnough: I’m not gonna live this way, Hi! It just ain’t family life!
H.I.: Well... it ain’t “Ozzie and Harriet.”
-Raising Arizona (1987)


20 posted on 07/01/2014 8:56:07 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: nickcarraway

She’s a very pretty girl. Harriet can be improved upon, let me just put it that way.


21 posted on 07/01/2014 8:57:12 PM PDT by jocon307 (These people are (some Polish word) crazy)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Great movie.


22 posted on 07/01/2014 8:59:07 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: jocon307

You mean the name?


23 posted on 07/01/2014 8:59:41 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Vagna?

Thailand?


24 posted on 07/01/2014 9:00:05 PM PDT by glock rocks (If you like your health plan, you're a racist !)
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To: Army Air Corps

Absolutely!


25 posted on 07/01/2014 9:02:26 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: nickcarraway

What about Shaniqua or LaTrayvion?


26 posted on 07/01/2014 9:02:51 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: nickcarraway
Stúlka and Drengur Cardew

Those sound like Viking names to me.

27 posted on 07/01/2014 9:03:35 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: nickcarraway
The lists for approved male and female Icelandic names are linked here:

http://www.nordicnames.de/wiki/Icelandic_Names

I couldn't pass.

28 posted on 07/01/2014 9:04:33 PM PDT by TChad (The Obamacare motto: Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

So many quotable lines in that movie (as with many Coen Brothers flicks).


29 posted on 07/01/2014 9:05:04 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: nickcarraway

Yea because calling her “Dögg” would be so much better for her self esteem.

*SMH*


30 posted on 07/01/2014 9:05:36 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: nickcarraway

Cute little girl. Actually Iceland is simply trying to preserve its heritage and culture. I personally don’t think there’s anything wrong with that and it has been that way for a long time. As an immigrant into Iceland, the guy mentioned in the article should have been willing to accept their customs and laws.

Of course, he could have the attitude that some Californians have when they move to neighboring state to escape the hell they helped create in their native state.


31 posted on 07/01/2014 9:10:04 PM PDT by House Atreides (ANOTHER CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN FOR CHILDERS 2014 .... Don't reward bad GOPe behavior.)
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To: nickcarraway; All

As long as Iceland doesn’t go to the UN and force everyone else to get rid of the name Harriet...its none of our problem

Iceland has an unique naming system based on the last name of the father. They want to preserve it

Unlike the leftward push from Liberal Globalists to Balkanize the US and rest of the world...Iceland seems to want none of that. Iceland also does not bail out globalists when they make bad investments, either


32 posted on 07/01/2014 9:15:22 PM PDT by DisorderOnBorder (Hollywood...Washington DC for pretty people)
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To: Dagnabitt

I bet that in Iceland you can name your kid Mohammad or Fatima.

(Iceland is way behind their Nordic cousins in national-suicide-by-Muslim-migration, but I believe they have started taking the poison.)


Probably not....Iceland is very tight on immigration. They give work visas to Poles and Eastern Euros to work in some industries, but that is it


33 posted on 07/01/2014 9:17:58 PM PDT by DisorderOnBorder (Hollywood...Washington DC for pretty people)
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Of course, he could have the attitude that some Californians have when they move to neighboring state to escape the hell they helped create in their native state.

You have it backwards. California was fine until people from your states came here and ruined it.

34 posted on 07/01/2014 9:18:06 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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“Vagna”????

How about “Mulva”?


35 posted on 07/01/2014 9:18:40 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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Yes, the name. Harriet herself looks as sweet as pie and as cute as a button.

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet, that’s what he said.


36 posted on 07/01/2014 9:21:46 PM PDT by jocon307 (These people are (some Polish word) crazy)
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To: dfwgator

What about Shaniqua or LaTrayvion?


We should ban those names here, in US. Those names just reek govt assistance


37 posted on 07/01/2014 9:22:19 PM PDT by DisorderOnBorder (Hollywood...Washington DC for pretty people)
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To: TChad; nickcarraway

There’s a “haddy “ on the list....

sounds like ‘Hattie’, which is close to the nickname for “Harriett”.

There’s a “Dunn” on the list, and a “Gunnar”.

Put them together as first and middle name and you are close....

Dunn Gunnar => dungannr => Duncan.


38 posted on 07/01/2014 9:25:07 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: nickcarraway

Isn’t she beautiful?

This doesn’t faze me as news. Laws have been on the books in MANY countries limiting names. Several until recently (or still do) insist the child have a saint’s name (or derivation therefrom). Many have fairly strict laws about names.

When I lived in Europe, people would ask me about what the rules were in America and I’d say, there can’t be any digits (numbers) in the name. I don’t think you can use an actual swear word, either. They were all shocked that our country was that free.


39 posted on 07/01/2014 9:33:49 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: MeshugeMikey
I think I heard Deb Saunders on Dennis Miller a couple of years ago say that she and her hubby had just gotten back from Iceland, and the people were up in arms over something.

Icelanders express their displeasure by throwing stuff from the kitchen at the pols. Can't remember exactly what...

40 posted on 07/01/2014 9:34:14 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: nickcarraway

She’s a ringer for one of my g/daughters.


41 posted on 07/01/2014 9:35:37 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (1 For every beast of the forest is mine, and the cattle upon a thousand hills. Psalm 50 v 10)
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To: nickcarraway; KC_Lion

South Korea even has such laws, but that doesn’t keep celebrities and everyone from being known by westernized nicknames.


42 posted on 07/01/2014 10:09:08 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: TChad
Karl is on the approved list so I'm happy with it.

But then Þjóðvarður is on the list too.

43 posted on 07/01/2014 11:02:36 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (The IRS: either criminally irresponsible in backup procedures or criminally responsible of coverup.)
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To: nickcarraway

Heaven forbid a country tries to preserve their language and culture....What a concept!


44 posted on 07/01/2014 11:07:22 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: KarlInOhio
Karl is on the approved list so I'm happy with it.

I noticed that Bambi is an approved male name. Hmm.

On the other hand, Barack is ilegal, and Mohammed is illegal, so this policy does have some positive aspects.

45 posted on 07/01/2014 11:20:51 PM PDT by TChad (The Obamacare motto: Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.)
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To: nickcarraway

The Althing (oldest Parliament in the world) in Iceland has to approve every new word that enters the Icelandic language as to not dilute it with English/ foreign sounding words. It is said the Icelanders can read the Old Norse Sagas in there original versions because the language has changed so little over a 1,000 years.

Norway up until about 10 years ago had an approved names list too, then the Muzzies got offended and they dropped it. I think Denmark has an approved names list too.

Icelanders also have their fist names listed first in the phone book.


46 posted on 07/01/2014 11:25:53 PM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: KarlInOhio
But then Þjóðvarður is on the list too.

I would be tickled to give my kid a name like that, with the old "eth" and "thorn" letters. He might not like it as much...

47 posted on 07/01/2014 11:43:59 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Kill’em quick, while their numbers are small.


48 posted on 07/01/2014 11:44:21 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: nickcarraway

Cute girl, but this is a message for her father: their country, their rules. Don’t like it? Leave.


49 posted on 07/02/2014 4:03:48 AM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: nickcarraway
I can understand Iceland's desire to protect their unique heritage. Why don't the parents pick one of the approved names and then nickname her Harriet? If Harriet ever moves to another country, she could have her name legally changed if that is her desire. That would be a hassle but fighting the name list is going to be a hassle too.

Despite my strong Scandinavian heritage, my wife and I used Biblical names for all our kids. As a group, however, they are referred to as the "Viking Horde" despite their Jewish-derived names.

50 posted on 07/02/2014 5:06:54 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Ignore the GOP-e. Cruz to victory in 2016.)
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