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PLA YJ-12 missile the most dangerous threat to US Navy: US expert
WantChinaTimes ^ | 2014-07-05

Posted on 07/06/2014 6:08:44 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

In an article written for the Washington-based military website, War on the Rock, Robert Haddick, an American military analyst said that the People's Liberation Army Navy's YJ-12 anti-ship cruise missile is the most dangerous threat to the US Navy in the Western Pacific.

On page 40 of the Military and Security Developments Involving the People’s Republic of China 2014 published by the Pentagon for congress indicated, this cruise missile provides an increased threat to naval assets, due to its long range and supersonic speeds. In addition, the YJ-12 is capable of being launched from PLA Navy Air Force's H-6 strategic bombers. Haddick said, therefore that the YJ-12 poses more of a risk that the DF-21 anti-ship ballistic missiles.

Citing a study conducted by the US Naval War College in 2011, Haddick said that the YJ-12 has a range of 400 kilometers. This makes the YJ-12 one of the world's longest-range anti-ship cruise missile. Haddick said that the range of the US Navy's Harpoon missile is only 124 kilometers. The extended range allows the PLA Navy's aircraft to launch the YJ-12 beyond the engagement range of the Navy's Aegis Combat System and the SM-2 surface-to-air missiles that protect US aircraft carrier strike groups.

The missile can be even more dangerous when they are deployed in Su-30 and J-11 fighters from the PLA Navy's two Flanker regiments. With a combat radius of 1,500 kilometers, the Chinese fighters can carry between two and four missiles into the battlefield. Haddick said that the US carrier strike group will have to defend itself against over a hundred supersonic ASCMs approaching from several directions at a wave-top height, allowing the group's close-in air defenses less than 45 seconds to respond.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; china; plan; usn

1 posted on 07/06/2014 6:08:44 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YJ-12


2 posted on 07/06/2014 6:19:58 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

>>the People’s Liberation Army Navy’s YJ-12 anti-ship cruise missile is the most dangerous threat to the US Navy<<

Hey, Americans...it’s Sunday. Better march on down to the local Walmart (China-mart) and buy some more of that cheap Chi-com crap.

Remember those in D.C. spouting the lie, “Americans want cheaper goods”? Americans bought into this lie hook, line and sinker.

BOYCOTT CHINESE GOODS Y’ALL! For the love of country, starve these communist pukes. Look at your labels folks. STOP buying Chinese goods.


3 posted on 07/06/2014 6:25:56 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: sukhoi-30mki

They really hate the carriers


4 posted on 07/06/2014 6:26:39 AM PDT by reefdiver (Be the Best you can be Whatever you Dream to be)
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To: servantboy777

You raise a very good point.

America needs to decide whether to stand up to China, or simply buy itself into destruction.

For real. America in importing far too much. A lot of American companies have sold out our manufacturing.

China is right now building up. Rapidly. Yet we continue to buy and buy and buy from ... China. The two are strongly related.

Very strongly related.


5 posted on 07/06/2014 6:30:33 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: servantboy777

You’ve taken the leftist anti Walmart bait. Do you prefer union thug manufactured crap? Perhaps a government motors volt floats you boat?


6 posted on 07/06/2014 6:47:10 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
China's DF-41 missile can wipe out 3 US cities in one attack
7 posted on 07/06/2014 6:51:43 AM PDT by RebelTex
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To: RebelTex

Thank you bill Clinton and your buddies at Loral for giving the Chicoms the targeting technology.


8 posted on 07/06/2014 6:53:30 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero

There are PLENTY of opportunities in right to work states for companies to open and staff plants...

The issue is Americans won’t work for slave labor wages like the Chinese and other 3rd world economies...

Face it... Most Americans (those working and paying taxes) are trying to survive. If a store has goods made in the USA I’ll gladly purchase them if the price is close...


9 posted on 07/06/2014 6:56:52 AM PDT by bfh333 ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: sukhoi-30mki

No missile can ever be built that is faster than a laser or charged particle beam.


10 posted on 07/06/2014 7:00:40 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: servantboy777

I don’t think China wants to kill the cow that feeds her people when we are willing to sell the milk so cheaply to them.


11 posted on 07/06/2014 7:05:56 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: bfh333

When Boeing moved to a right to work state to open a union free facility , zer0s NLRB and holder told them NO!


12 posted on 07/06/2014 7:11:04 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Why not? American corporations are overtaxed. Stolen from really. The wages are taxed, then the corporations are taxed. Then the capitol gains of shareholders are taxed.

So why wouldn’t these corporations move overseas? Out of patriotism? Please. What makes the USA special? We are not a nation like Japan is a nation. We are not a nation like France is a nation. The only thing that makes us special is our Constitution. The Constitution, it’s ideas are ignored and ridiculed.

See the problem?


13 posted on 07/06/2014 7:13:06 AM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deco et Vives)
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To: Vaquero
You’ve taken the leftist anti Walmart bait. Do you prefer union thug manufactured crap?

As opposed to building China's military??? Absolutely yes...100%...

14 posted on 07/06/2014 7:15:58 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: DariusBane

I am not getting your post.

I am saying exactly yes, corporations should make stuff in America, out of patriotism.

What makes the USA special? Are you serious?

What makes the USA special?

What exactly is your point?

Do you not believe the USA is special? I believe we are the best nation in history.

Thanks.


15 posted on 07/06/2014 8:05:22 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Here is what I am trying to say:

We are not a nation. We are not a people. Examples of nations: Japan is a nation. Israel is a nation. Germany is a nation. What is the USA?

The USA is a set of values and ideals enshrined in the the Deceleration of Independence and the Constitution. The idea that all men are created equal and endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights. In other words all rights of man come from God, not from government.

The only thing that makes us a “nation” are those ideas or ideals. Without those ideas what is these United States? A spot on the map? We are not a people. We have no natural affinity for each other. We are nothing.

We have abandoned our founding ideas so nothing is left. So with that in mind, why should any corporation maintain operations here in this country? Why? Cultural affinity? Religious affinity? Patriotism? Affinity to what? The Constitution that we ignore?

We have no identity. What is the basis of loyalty except money? Money that can be made more efficiently elsewhere.


16 posted on 07/06/2014 8:30:32 AM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deco et Vives)
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To: DariusBane

I think I disagree, with literally everything you said.

Wow.

Everything.


17 posted on 07/06/2014 8:34:15 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

So what makes the USA a nation? Tell me. Boundaries on a map? What? Religion? Heritage? Tell me.


18 posted on 07/06/2014 8:36:36 AM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deco et Vives)
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To: DariusBane

We are a nation because our people came here and became America.

America.

We are not some race. We are not some religion. We are a principle. And we are a nation, just as any other. Except we are even better than a lot of places.

We are a nation, which needs to start supporting our own.

Stop selling out America.


19 posted on 07/06/2014 8:41:20 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: servantboy777
Hey, Americans...it’s Sunday. Better march on down to the local Walmart (China-mart) and buy some more of that cheap Chi-com crap.

Not that I'm a great Walmart advocate, but do you ever step into any other retailers and check their shelves? You know the ones never demonized like Sears, Kmart, Target, Lowes, Home Depot, Best Buy, absolutely everyone. I'm all for buying 100% American, if I can afford it, so maybe you can point to the retailer that sells only all American products, or maybe just one that sell no Chinese products.

20 posted on 07/06/2014 8:57:14 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I didn’t sell out America. Tell me what America is. What is it? A principle? What principle? Is the principle that “we are even better than a lot of places”? That’s it?

MURIKA! F-Yeah!

Tell me what “it” is.


21 posted on 07/06/2014 11:20:42 AM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deco et Vives)
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To: DariusBane

Where are you from please?

(just curious)

Thanks.


22 posted on 07/06/2014 11:22:52 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

From here. Vet. Patriot. Big fan of small Federal Government. A Jeffersonian classical liberal.

You agree with me. You just don’t know it. You wrote:

“America.

We are not some race. We are not some religion. We are a principle. And we are a nation, just as any other. Except we are even better than a lot of places.”

So what is this principle about which you speak? Tell me what it is.

Is the principle that all men are created equal? Is the principle a small federal government that is beholden to the people and to the small list of enumerated powers given to the same federal government by the people? Is that the principle?

What principle are you referring to?


23 posted on 07/06/2014 11:27:42 AM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deco et Vives)
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To: DariusBane

Thanks for your service.

Actually I wasn’t in the service, so I commend you for that. I was overseas for several years however, and learned to appreciate America quite a bit, by not being here.

Not sure I understand your attitude is all.

America is a special place. As Americans we have a responsibility to keep it strong, and I don’t sense that in part, in your former posts.

We need to keep America strong.

That means we as Americans, need to advocate for American companies to hire people right here at home.

We import a whole huge ... boatload of stuff from Communist China.

Our own companies, are building up the world’s largest communist nation, very rapidly.

We need to support American jobs.

That is all I am saying. Support American jobs.

We need to grow America.

All of us.


24 posted on 07/06/2014 11:33:56 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Look you can feel good about America, advocate for America, wave Old Glory if you want. It will not change the fact that The People, and their government see Corporations and wealthy people as objects to loot. As long as that is the case the inexorable result will be corporations and wealthy individuals will find other ways of doing business. They will move overseas. They will figure out other ways of doing business. The USA has absolutely no inherent right to wealth and productivity.

These things must be earned through competition in an international market. but instead “we” loot corporations and individuals. So they go elsewhere. No amount of flag waving will change that.


25 posted on 07/06/2014 11:39:38 AM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deco et Vives)
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To: DariusBane

I don’t know.

When I go in any store, a majority of the things to buy, were made in the Peoples Republic of China.

China is (rapidly) becoming stronger. Their population is four or five times our own.

China is becoming wealthy quickly. Quite quickly. For an entire generation we have been basically staying steady, while China has been rapidly growing.

Now America and China are roughly equivalent.

The problem is, our trade is wildly unbalanced, so our countries will not remain equivalent.

China will take the lead.

China is closed. China very completely, maintains control in China. Including in businesses.

I am just saying that our own companies, are selling out our own interests.

American companies are selling out, America! This is infuriating. Our own companies, are building much of the stuff they sell right here at home ... in the Peoples Republic of China.

Bring back jobs, and production, to America.


26 posted on 07/06/2014 11:52:29 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Bow are you going to bring jobs and production back here. Hong Kong is a vastly better and freer place to do business.

The only reason that countries and governments are formed is to provide mutual protection. Protection from outside forces and to enforce contracts. The bottom line is that if a farmer plants crops in the spring he can have a reasonable expectation of taking those crops to a stable market. Without the crops being stolen or destroyed by his neighbors or outside invaders. That’s it at the most basic level.

Here, now, the farmers product is looted by his neighbors. So why put in the crops?


27 posted on 07/06/2014 12:06:35 PM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deco et Vives)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The next war will have thousands of missiles being fired at once to overwhelm any targets. Followed by even more missiles on any remaining targets.
Only then can a navy move into range with aircraft.


28 posted on 07/06/2014 1:30:13 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Vaquero
>>You’ve taken the leftist anti Walmart bait. Do you prefer union thug manufactured crap?<<

No, your mistaken. I am a native Texan. We are a right to work state. We ARE the leader in economic output.

Buy American!

29 posted on 07/06/2014 4:48:19 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777; Vaquero

A Chinese slave laborer can’t hold a candle to the productivity of an all American robot.


30 posted on 07/06/2014 4:53:52 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: servantboy777

Don’t look now tex but there is a gazillion Mexicans streaming across your southern border by design from DC.
I can’t get a flat screen tv or smart phone that is currently made here. We would need to completely restructure our national priorities which neither parties seem to be interested(for vastly different reasons). A WW 2 type of emergency would be required to set us back on track as a manufacturing giant. Even 9/11 didn’t do it.
Not saying we shouldn’t ...just saying it’s not currently on a front burner.


31 posted on 07/06/2014 5:14:53 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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