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To: dervish

I have always held that there is no way whatsoever that birth control can be justified as a health insurance matter.

Instead of fixing something that doesn’t work, it either breaks something that works or prevents something that works, from working.

I have never received an intelligent rebuttal or even a coherent reply from a leftist on this matter.


2 posted on 07/06/2014 7:51:04 AM PDT by jiggyboy
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To: jiggyboy; Mrs. Don-o
I have never received an intelligent rebuttal or even a coherent reply from a leftist on this matter.

Your points are spot on. Well done.

3 posted on 07/06/2014 7:56:40 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: jiggyboy

“I have never received an intelligent rebuttal or even a coherent reply from a leftist on this matter”

you never will


4 posted on 07/06/2014 8:08:32 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: jiggyboy

Very good reply. They always whine . . . but Viagra is covered for men . . . but it fixes something that is broke. haha


5 posted on 07/06/2014 8:39:07 AM PDT by Qwackertoo (Going into Politic Free Zone Momma Grizzly hibernation for a while after this week, maybe forever.)
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To: jiggyboy

8 posted on 07/06/2014 9:23:56 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: jiggyboy
I have always held that there is no way whatsoever that birth control can be justified as a health insurance matter.

Instead of fixing something that doesn’t work, it either breaks something that works or prevents something that works, from working.

I have never received an intelligent rebuttal or even a coherent reply from a leftist on this matter.

As a strong conservative, I am going to give you a coherent reply. Most birth control has been traditionally treated as a medical care issue for nearly a century. Politicians, the medical care industry, and the general populace has gone along with this for longer than I have been alive, which approaches 7 decades. There is really no such thing as Health Insurance -- no one but God can guarantee your health. A policy may say "Health Insurance" on the top of the page, and politicians, medical professionals, the media and the general public may call it that, but if you think about this for a while you will see that it does not insure that you will be healthy any more than "Life Insurance" insures that you will live.

It is Medical Care Insurance which guarantees to pay for medical treatment. Just as Life Insurance pays your beneficiary when you die. There are many types of medical treatment which are not necessary to continue living, but which produce results that are desired by the patient. Would you deny cosmetic surgery to those born with disfiguring birth defects? How about those with traumatic injury?

As I age, I find I need the modern antacid drugs. I have never heard of anyone dying of heartburn, but are you going to argue that these drugs should not be covered by medical insurance?

* * * * * *

Be careful what you ask for. One of the potential responses to the medical care coverage issue, is to make birth control over-the-counter. This would remove it from the policies, which only cover prescription medication, but, it would be even more widely available. I am not certain this is a bad idea, although you might find it less appealing.

9 posted on 07/06/2014 9:41:59 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: jiggyboy

To them, “broke” means anything that doesn’t work the way *I* want it to work. Post-modernism means that people can make up whatever “truth” they want, and I think they figure that the real world should work just like the imaginary thought games work for them. If I believe that a Mack truck running me over won’t kill me, then by golly that’s how the world is supposed to work.

It’s idolatry - putting oneself in the place of God. Who does God think He is, to say how the reproductive system is “supposed” to work? Or to say how marriage is “supposed” to work? Etc. That’s the mentality. If it works how God intended but not how *I* intended, then it’s broken because it is the “Almighty Me” whose will is everything.

The whole point of “Planned Parenthood” is that our lives should always go just how WE want it to be. Children should live according to *MY* terms. They should be when and where I want, the gender I want, the intelligence level I want, the eye-color I want.... etc.

Basically, it’s the mentality of a 2-year-old who, when he can’t get his parents to agree to what he wants, throws a tantrum and/or takes what he wants anyway.

What they may never realize is that God’s way is for our good. He knows how everything fits together and knows the ultimate consequences for trying to switch this “one little thing” around. But humans want to believe they know best - more than the One who can see the end from the beginning. We don’t know the world of hurt we may be inviting by messing with “this one little thing”, but He does.


10 posted on 07/06/2014 10:00:44 AM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: jiggyboy

Let’s come at this from a different angle:

Do all the positions of the Liberals try to make the case that an employer MUST provide for birth control & contraceptive items?

IF SO-—What about the woman who doesn’t work-—and there are plenty of them in the USA.

Some live on trust funds from their parents or grandparents. They MUST provide their own birth control items if they wish to have such.

Some are homeless on the streets-—who provides their birth control care??

Many women are in prison/jail in the USA-—who is providing their birth control???

Some are in hospitals for mental care—who provides birth control for them?

Basically-—WHY is the EMPLOYER supposed to supply birth control for a woman??? WHO got this idea into their heads & fomented it into the fabric of America.?????

IS this same employer supposed to be supplying ALL of the health needs for a women?

I have dry skin-—my employer should provide my Gold Bond lotion???

I have dandruff-—my employer should provide Selsun Blue shampoo???

I am allergic to certain pollens-—my employer should provide all my OTC allergy items???

I cut my finger while cutting up chicken while making dinner-—my employer should provide all my Bandaids?

I have dry eyes-—my employer should provide my Visine products???

I still am having my period-—my employer should provide my Tampons???

I have a headache-—my employer should provide my Bayer aspirin or Aleve or Advil?

And the milk to take such tablets with???

We all are advised to take vitamins because of the processing of today’s food-——is the employer to provide my vitamins????

I have Macular Degeneration in my family-—is my employer supposed to provide the supplements recommended for me???

I shave my armpits & legs-—my employer should provide the razors & shaving cream???

I insist on going barefoot or in thongs all year around———my employer should provide Heel Crack cream because of my refusal to wear shoes???

IS there no level of responsibility of a woman in America any more???

Birth control pills cost less than a decent bottle of wine——for a month’s supply. Lots of these Liberal women consume a bottle wine a month.

Buy your own products, ‘LADIES’-—it is NOT the burden of your employer to do so.

You are NOT being DENIED ACCESS to birth control. Those pills can be bought across the counter at Wal-Mart without a prescription for less than about $20 a month.

As an employer, I am expecting you to pay for your own life style & choices.


11 posted on 07/06/2014 10:58:57 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: jiggyboy

How about sex change operations for geriatrics? Medicare will pay for those.


24 posted on 07/06/2014 12:58:28 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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