Skip to comments.Seattle pushing back on the $15 minimum wage
Posted on 07/06/2014 7:19:17 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
When Seattle passed their new city council ordinance mandating a staged increase in the minimum wage to $15.00 per hour, many local businesses – as well as observers across the nation – were left shaking their heads. The rules seemed to be unevenly applied, with some businesses having to comply but not others, as well has having a complete disregard for whether or not the job providing entities would be able to remain competitive and survive under the new rules. As Reuters reports, a coalition of business owners are now moving to exercise the power of public support to put the brakes on this thing before it goes off the tracks entirely.
Forward Seattle, which represents restaurants, retailers and other businesses, handed in just under 20,000 signatures to the Seattle City Clerk on Wednesday, more than the 16,510 needed to qualify for the November ballot, said group co-chair Angela Cough.
The proposal would ask Seattle voters to repeal a $15 minimum wage increase that was approved by a unanimous vote of the City Council last month and signed by Mayor Ed Murray. It is scheduled to go into effect over several years.
The move by city leaders marked the first time a major U.S. city has committed to such a high base level of pay. Seattle is among several cities leading the way in a national push by Democrats to raise minimum wages, and the plan in the Pacific Northwest city has drawn criticism from business groups.
Over at The American Thinker, Rick Moran asks a few pointed questions which the city council might want to consider.
Many voters believe all businesses are rich and don’t pay their employees $15 an hour because they’re greedy.
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Minimum wage is an absolute joke being that they will hire illegals for a fraction of that. I remember in the 70s when I was in High school it was tough to get a job, I can’t even imagine what it’s like now. “Can you work for $3 bucks an hour? Well then get lost. I’ll hire Juan”
Liberals don’t live in reality. They truly believe that you can double the current legal minimum wage with no ill effects at all. This is a result of static thinking.
Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828.
The government has NO business telling any employer what the must pay their employees.
Communist governments start with taxing people.
Can’t pay? They will take your property, business away and they will “manage” it to destruction.
Then everybody will be even, “distributed”.
See shining example of Soviet Union, Cuba, N. Korea, Venezuela, NYC
What do not people get???
“The rules seemed to be unevenly applied, with some businesses having to comply but not others”
Compliance to be determined by the level of “Donations” to SEIU groups and the “right” Democrats, of course.
Just like Chicago...
And that is one of the lynchpins of this MW issue. Republicans need to hammer on this.
Eliminate MW and the illegal alien Mexican problem dries up.
Expect the same with WA's track record and a Communist in charge.
They have a wide menu with all sorts of dishes like Spaghetti, sandwiches and curry. There is only one employee in the store.
It is good stuff, better than McDonald's and cheaper too. That is what you get with a high minimum wage. One job not 25 http://www.openrice.com/restaurant/sr2.htm?shopid=22698&tc=sr1&con=phto
This is all too funny and a good example of why I left that leftist hell hole.
I remember back when they proposed a ‘luxury coffee’ tax. All those good liberals protested it and had signs in their cafe windows urging people to call their reps and demand they not pass it.
They said the tax of what is really peanuts compared to the minimum-wage tax would hurt their business.
Now they elected the same socialist scumbags (no different than those in the DemocRat party) who put this minimum-wage garbage through.
You want those plastic bag bans gone? The reason why so many businesses are standing up against Seattle is that it is going to hit them in the pocketbook. Make the same situation happen with the bag bans. ‘You won’t bag my purchase for free? I’ll go somewhere else, and you can restock your shelves. You’ll lose a sale and you’ve got annoyed customers in line delayed, and staff doing extra work.
Even in the People’s Republics of Santa Monica and Pasadena, I’ve had managers time and time again hand over bags rather than lose the sale and lose the time and effort. You are the consumer, they want to sell you things, and if you want to make a condition of sale that is ‘illegal’, they will eventually move to get that law reversed.
Yep, a thousand bags is under $20 delivered from your local office supply store or Amazon. Sure, you can lug around dirty bags and put fresh food in it. Or you can actually take a stand and say ‘no.’
Growing up in the 70’s I had some nice low-wage jobs:
Municipal Arena usher - the kind of job people would pay to do. See the event, meet people, take friends. Had to join a union though, to take dues and make sure I didn’t do anything that was someone else’s job.
Night attendant - some cleanup and organizing, take the rare call or delivery, but mostly sit & study or read (today I’d be on smartphone/tablet).
You apply for the job, know the terms, and are happy to get it. Do a good job, get promoted or at least references and networks. If you’re happily working for a low-margin employer, why should Obama or anyone say “If you like your job, you can’t keep your job!”
Im never gonna be able to give abuse to little shitheads agian how depressing.
Now how are youths going to learn how to take abuse?
In Washington, DC, with Walmart trying to open 6 stores for DC’s 640,000 residents, there was an attempt to require large retailers (70,000 sq. ft. or larger) to pay $12.50 and hour. It lost, but by only 1 vote. In many areas, Walmart employees are getting significant Federal dollars in food stamps, and other payments because their wages are so low. Walmart’s CEO is paid $21 million.
Seattle is such a disgusting place to visit. Homeless bums everywhere begging, sleeping on the streets, basically taking over public spaces in the south near Pioneer Square and the art district.
I avoid going there unless there is some very special event. Sick place. Thanks, Liberals for making a formerly beautiful city into the nation's bum magnet.
This really is a typical scene on the Streets of Seattle.
Bothering to enforce a law like "E-Verify" would solve a lot of problems, and free up a lot of low-paying, low skilled jobs for American citizens, like teens getting their first job, or for seniors, looking to pick up a few extra bucks.
But then, "illegal" is nothing but a sick bird, unless you cross the government.
“What do not people get???”
History lessons in school on the shortcomings of marxism.
Also education sadly lacking in basic economics.
>> Many voters believe all businesses are rich and dont pay their employees $15 an hour because theyre greedy.
“Many voters” are economically ignorant.
Walmart employees are getting significant Federal dollars in food stamps, and other payments because their wages are so low. Walmarts CEO is paid $21 million.
BS. The average wage for Walmart store employees in more than $15 and they get sick leave, education assistance, health insurance, etc. Stop believing all of the UNION propoganda. The CEO of the world’s largest retailer is making FAR less than many of the people on Wall Street!
what a shower of wimps...
lets eradicate poverty, just pay everyone 1000 dollars an hour..hell why stop there lets make everyone billionaires, whats the problem? not enough, how about google-plexaires...keep going. we can solve this so easily.
i want more money per hour than atoms in the universe..
actually why work, just gimme money, lets not restrict ourselves.
do i need a sarc here...really?
There's a place for a chain like that with or without minimum wage. I'm surprised no one has tried it yet, at least with order-takers. I can't say that I've had any memorable interactions with them, and they often make errors.
I don’t see the saliva injectors in that graphic. Is that an extra cost option?
That is the politically incorrect answer and sounds coldhearted. But let's be realistic...no business owner is going to add more costs to doing business than they can financially justify. Leftists simply don't understand economics.
Not saying it will happen, but what happens to this Minimum Wage if we get hit by a dose of hyper-inflation?
Was a time not so long ago minimum wage was a negative number, when one or one's family paid skilled craftsmen to take on apprentices.
Seattle Common Core Math
zero skill sets + zero life experience + zero people skills + negative attitude = $15/hr
what right does the city council of Seattle have to legislate wages?
The businesses have an equal right to bill the city for the excess paid over the existing wage.
How much does your boss, Mr. Soros make? How much does he pay you? Why should there be a discrepancy? Duh!
what can they expect from a city that boasts a statue of Lenin?
Maybe fat Oprah can re-distribute her $3 BILLION to the poor?
Nahhh, those leftwing hypocrites keep their wealth they earned from free market capitalism while preaching socialism.
When I was a kid I had a job on a construction painting crew, an American can’t get that job anymore in my city, because subcontractors that hire illegals underbid everybody else.
The same will happen with every job in Seattle, those businesses that survive will be staffed entirely by illegals.
RE: Walmart employees are getting significant Federal dollars in food stamps, and other payments because their wages are so low. Walmarts CEO is paid $21 million.
Why isn’t it possible to DECREASE the equivalent amount in food stamps for the equivalent amount of dollar one earns at Wal-Mart? That would encourage more people to work and decrease the amount of money government has to spend as well.
I want to see Seattle keep the $15 MW. It’s time for the people to see the results of liberal idiocy.
And if Walmart were regulated out of DC, many of these current employees would be earning $0.00 an hour, being total government dependents (food stamps, unemployment “insurance”, “disability” and welfare) and contributing nothing to the economy.
You don’t have to tell me. I was there from 97 until 2006. I watched the very rapid descent into hell.
It’s a shame. I love the state, the PNW, and the people in most of the state (outside the major cities).
Bit I can’t stand the Seassholes, as I called them when I was there.
I will make a point of asking Walmart employees how much they are paid. Actually I believe, the median for Fortune 500 CEOs is below $21,000,000, possibly closer to $10 or $12 million. Google “Forbes CEO Compensation” for more facts.
Don’t know, have been self employed since 1983. My main enemy is my local government.
I’m not sure I understand the concept you are suggesting. Companies like Walmart are already cutting back on hours, which means that families need food stamps to make up for the hours of pay lost.
The problem with Walmart in DC is that they are using their business to force small businesses to fail, then buying up property of those failed businesses and making big real estate money on high rise development. Google “Walmart Realty”, read their mission statement and read between the lines.
For example I drove into the city and stopped at a hair supply store in a one story building across from a new Walmart. I asked if they had been affected by Walmart. They said their business was about the same, but they were furious that whereas before their customers could park in front, run in and pick up an order, now they had to park a block away, because Walmart had arranged to have parking on that side of the street eliminated, and moved across the street to the front of Walmart which already has lots of indoor parking. I then entered and talked with several other businesses and they said the lack of parking was going to destroy their lunch business.
I wasn’t talking about the CEOs on Wall Street. Here’s what I said: The CEO of the worlds largest retailer is making FAR less than many of the people on Wall Street!
Many of the traders on Wall St. pull in more income than the CEOs.
Also... I want to amend what I said about WalMart employees averaging over $15/hour. I believe the figure I read a couple of weeks ago was around $12.81 (which is still considerably higher than minimum wage).
An average of $12.81 includes higher paid managers. I’ve heard that low level workers often make $9 an hour and may work 30 hours or less. That would be $270 a week before FICA, federal and local taxes taken out. There might be places were that is a survivable wage, but not in DC or other urban areas.