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To: I want the USA back

IVF is a form of breeding livestock - diabolical science.

egg donors get paid
surrogates get paid
sperm donors get paid

None of whom raise the children.

The popularity of Ancestry.com illustrates how much we cherish our parentage. The poor children of these selfish experiments will never find or have that connection to their geneaological’roots’.


31 posted on 07/07/2014 3:21:29 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers.)
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To: sodpoodle

Most IVFs involve the married father and mother, with no genetic third parties or surrogate mother.


45 posted on 07/07/2014 3:50:02 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: sodpoodle; I want the USA back; Salvation; St_Thomas_Aquinas; GeronL; pgkdan
The popularity of Ancestry.com illustrates how much we cherish our parentage. The poor children of these selfish experiments will never find or have that connection to their geneaological’roots’.

You are absolutely right!!! These children are deprived of their ancestry. As an adoptee and adoptive parent, I can't stress enough the necessary connection with one's ancestors. Since I am half adopted (I only know my maternal heritage), I recall the stories of those who came to the US, related by my grandmother. Over the past 2 years, working strictly from 'oral history', I have been able co verify that what was orally passed down to us is indeed true. My adopted daughter, OTOH, though she knows the names of her birth parents and has met her birth mother, lacks the oral history and has no interest in pursuing it.

Why is this link to the past so important? DNA! Both Matthew and Luke trace the ancestry of Jesus Christ. This forms a connection with the past. In my family, my uncle and I can trace our "gifts" back to their source. For example, I inherited the gift of language from my great, great grandfather while my uncle inherited the gift of music from a different great, great grandfather, on the same tree. It took me 50 years but, thanks to Ancestry.com, I was able to track down photographs of my great, great grandparents by identifying a missing cousin who had recently passed away. All that remained from his estate were the photographs and some historical documents. My request for these arrived on the very day they were scheduled to be shredded!

Knowing one's ancestral record connects the past to the present and fills in some of the blanks.

Several years ago, a young teen girl, conceived through donor insemination, was able to identify the name of her "father". GMA invited her and her mom on their show, with the promise of setting up a communications link to him. The young girl was excited to finally meet her "dad". While that may seem strange, it corroborates what I have just written. The desire to know one's ancestral record burns like an ember in the heart. Finally, the link was patched through and her "dad" appeared on the screen with his wife and two young sons. The girl blushed as she began to ask her questions: "Do you have large feet?" Something so simple may seem ridiculous but to one who is adopted or born through donor insemination, "yes", this is a big question. He smiled and said 'yes'. She sighed and smiled, in acknowledgement of this distinctive difference between her and her mother. After asking a few other questions, the GMA host had a question of her own. She asked the if he had any other children conceived through his donated sperm. He responded: "Yes! From what I understand, there are more than a hundred and I hope they don't all come looking for me." - laughing. The camera panned back to the young girl's face. The excitement of finally meeting her "dad" turned into a sallow expression as she realized that she was no more special to him than last night's dinner.

I posted a comment and link on comment #2 and will repeat it here. Pope JPII, who is now a saint, left us an Encyclical on the Value and Dignity of Human Life. It was Pope Paul VI who foresaw the future and published his encyclical on Human Life.

On July 25, 1968, Pope Paul VI’s Humanae Vitae re-affirmed the Catholic teaching on life, love and human sexuality. In that document, he listed the consequences of life lived outside Catholic teaching. He predicted that:

  1. Contraception would lead to conjugal infidelity.
  2. Contraceptive practice would lead to a “general lowering of morality.”
  3. Contraception would lead men to cease respecting woman in their totality and would cause them to treat women as “mere instruments of selfish enjoyment” rather than as cherished partners.
  4. And finally, widespread acceptance of contraception by couples would lead to a massive imposition of contraception by unscrupulous governments.

In other words, Pope Paul VI predicted that contraception would evolve from “a lifestyle choice” into a weapon of mass destruction.

53 posted on 07/07/2014 4:06:06 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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