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Why (exempt) liberals are abandoning the Obamacare employer mandate
Politico ^ | 7/06/14 | PAIGE WINFIELD CUNNINGHAM, KYLE CHENEY

Posted on 07/07/2014 5:05:58 PM PDT by Libloather

Robert Gibbs’ prediction that Obamacare’s employer mandate would — and perhaps should — be jettisoned shocked Democrats back in April.

By July, the former aide and longtime confidant of President Barack Obama had a lot more company. More and more liberal activists and policy experts who help shape Democratic thinking on health care have concluded that penalizing businesses if they don’t offer health insurance is an unnecessary element of the Affordable Care Act that may do more harm than good. Among them are experts at the Urban Institute and the Commonwealth Fund and prominent academics like legal scholar Tim Jost.

The employer mandate, Jost wrote in a Health Affairs post in June, “cries out for repair.” Repealing it “might not be such a bad idea,” if it’s replaced with something better for workers and businesses.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: exempt; liberals; mandate; obamacare
But the White House has delayed it twice in the past year, dubbed it “not critical” and said it will be phased in more slowly when its begins next year.

Let Hussein do it all by himself. Either way, he's screwed.

1 posted on 07/07/2014 5:05:58 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Just make it up as you go along. Every adjunct professor of community organizing knows that it’s constitutional.


2 posted on 07/07/2014 5:12:23 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Libloather
How to screw the American People:

1) Create massive program with numerous benefits and numerous costs.
2) Provide the benefits immediately.
3) Phase in the costs over time.
4) Keep extending the phase-in time for the costs but only for political supporters.
5) Use the IRS for enforcement and to intimidate and stymie political opposition.

After all of the benefits are in place there is no way for anyone to seriously propose getting rid of the program. Now the only question is how to keep it properly funded.

The only two answers are: 1) Don't properly fund it. Just let its excessive costs add to the debt, and 2) Fund it in completely different ways than originally intended based on which party has control of the White House and Congress.

3 posted on 07/07/2014 5:19:33 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Libloather

Let Obamacare sink of its own weight — and bring down the DemocRATS with it. Won’t the Employer mandate go poof for states without a “state exchange” once the Supreme Court renders it “plain language” decision next session?

Then, ONLY the dumb states (Blue for the most part) who set up exchanges will have their employers penalized. Yet another reason to flea such states to the Red States.


4 posted on 07/07/2014 5:23:15 PM PDT by House Atreides (ANOTHER CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN FOR CHILDERS 2014 .... Don't reward bad GOPe behavior.)
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To: House Atreides

lol — flee not flea


5 posted on 07/07/2014 5:24:00 PM PDT by House Atreides (ANOTHER CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN FOR CHILDERS 2014 .... Don't reward bad GOPe behavior.)
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To: House Atreides

lol — flee not flea


6 posted on 07/07/2014 5:24:04 PM PDT by House Atreides (ANOTHER CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN FOR CHILDERS 2014 .... Don't reward bad GOPe behavior.)
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To: Libloather

7 posted on 07/07/2014 5:25:37 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Only John Robert’s ‘Constitution’ contains such words much as it contains every other combination of words Washington might imagine.

As for me I was raised a baptist and being a baptist means we believe individual has the right to read the bible for themselves. I don’t need corrupt lawyers like John Robert’s to dictate words that aren’t even written in this Constitution:

Lies so obvious, only one sold into the dilutions of ultimately groundless double speak would even think of entertaining. In law school they teach people to treat the words of Judges as if they were the word of God, questionable in their authority only to higher Gods(Judges), and ultimatly unbound by any word written by any contract of men. I tell you that is in itself living a lie much as it is training to submit to a lie.

When reserved powers becomes subject to congressional or judicial invention, there is no law.
When Congress shall not becomes until congress does and everyone else shall not, there is no law.
When Shall not be abridged becomes shall only be abridged in ever changing and arbitrary ways, there is no law!

Americans every day who read legal edicts wake-up more and more to the simple reality that there IS NO LAW IN WASHINGTON! As such there is can not long be any freedom under Washington.


8 posted on 07/07/2014 5:31:50 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Libloather

BOR just said Obama is going to go down in history as one of the 5 worst presidents in history. To do that, you have to lose your own.

It’s sort of sad. Bill still thinks it’s because Obama “doesn’t understand”. Obama understands perfectly. It’s all planned.

The poor libs are coming to the sad realization that Obama is the dog everyone has been telling them it is. Oh, there are a few folks here and there who it has helped, and who are thrilled with it, but most have been slapped in the face with it somewhere and are somewhat stunned about it. Of course, it’s all the REpublicans fault because they “killed single payer”.

Example - a family member who is liberal was calling us, calling us, practically begging us to sign up for Obamacare convinced it would save us thousands on our health insurance, which we buy privately. Finally we went over there and on the calculator had to show them the scam that was being worked, that it was actually much more expensive, it was a sad awakening.


9 posted on 07/07/2014 5:34:16 PM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: Libloather

Yeah, that’s stage two, moving right on schedule.


10 posted on 07/07/2014 5:36:09 PM PDT by eclecticEel ("The petty man forsakes what lies within his power and longs for what lies with Heaven." - Xunzi)
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To: eclecticEel

Yep. That’ll increase the number of potential enrollees for subsidized insurance without providing the revenue that was supposed to fund those subsidies. I’m sure that’ll help “bend the cost curve”.


11 posted on 07/07/2014 5:50:13 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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To: eclecticEel

Yes, it is part of the initial plan. President Obama has said in various venues that he wants to break the tie between employment and health insurance. This is because he wants people looking to the government for health insurance rather than either employers or insurance companies.

The drumbeat of blaming the insurance companies started out of the gate for this mess. They even tried to hang the web site problems on the insurance companies.

The progressives WANT your company to drop your insurance plan. The fine associated with the mandate was a disincentive for companies to drop health insurance. Thus, the penalty must go.


12 posted on 07/07/2014 5:53:42 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: Monorprise
Roberts had a chance to do right by the founders and slow this thing down. He chose otherwise.

He can rot.

13 posted on 07/07/2014 7:13:40 PM PDT by skeeter
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