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Fed Sets October End for Bond Buying
WSJ ^ | Updated July 9, 2014 7:07 p.m. ET | Jon Hilsenrath and Pedro Nicolaci da Costa

Posted on 07/10/2014 6:21:44 AM PDT by Java4Jay

Federal Reserve officials agreed at June's policy meeting to end their bond-buying program in October, putting an explicit end date on the experiment for the first time and closing a controversial chapter in central-banking annals with results still the subject of immense debate.

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To: Java4Jay

When will the Fed start selling the Trillions $$ that they already have sitting on their balance sheets ?

2- The ECB and Japan are expanding their money printing.


21 posted on 07/10/2014 7:28:07 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: P-Marlowe

I imagine that the biggest result will be in the bond market; but I will not hazard to guess in which way.

They have been propping up government bonds, but has this taken investment funds away from other bonds; or has it artificially inflated the bond market that will now correct?

Bonds are an oddity, because as their price drops, *typically* their yield rises. However, if their price drops and their yield does not rise, it may cause a stampede out of bonds.

Commercial, taxable yields are more volatile, and market driven; and tax free municipal bonds are more stable, and based on the ability of cities to build new infrastructure. And because muny bonds are often medium and long term, even cities with financial problems continue to pay yields on them, so as not to destroy their credit.


22 posted on 07/10/2014 7:28:40 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: Java4Jay

After that it’s Orange Juice and Chocolate bars.


23 posted on 07/10/2014 7:30:53 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: Starboard

BS. The FED can’t stop creating money. There is no one to buy $1 trillion a year in US debt.

This will be a smoke and mirrors psych opp. Proxy buyers of Treasurys. Maybe Belgium will move up to be the biggest buyer. It already somehow holds over $400 billion. Not bad for a country with a 2013 GDP of $482 billion. /sarc


24 posted on 07/10/2014 8:12:23 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

Every blade of grass.


25 posted on 07/10/2014 8:14:42 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
I imagine that the biggest result will be in the bond market; but I will not hazard to guess in which way.

That's the dilemma, isn't it? Should I move my investments out of bonds (which have been doing quite well lately) and move them to something like a money market fund?

Should I let my large and small cap investments ride? Should I move in or out of equities? Or is it just something no one can predict?

26 posted on 07/10/2014 8:18:51 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Java4Jay

The Fed policies have led to Hot Money going to the Stock Market because of no returns anywhere else.
For certain now that interest rates will go up.
The Hat trick will be the Fed trying to unwind their Bond Portfolio now at about $5 Trillion bucks.


27 posted on 07/10/2014 8:22:14 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: P-Marlowe

Truthfully, I sincerely suggest what I have been suggesting for some years now: to keep a significant amount of cash, perhaps $5,000, in a secure place at home.

It’s most important element is that you have complete control over it at all times. Unlike a bank deposit, withdrawals cannot be “halted” by the government, or the bank itself. (Just a year or two ago, the rules were changed so that even “demand” accounts are no longer safe.)

It cannot be savaged by any kind of “currency run” on banks. (N.B.: there is only enough physical currency to support 4% of US daily retail trade.)

And paper money and coin cannot be hyperinflated, as such, because there are only two US printing offices, that already work around the clock producing mostly $1 bills, and proportionately fewer higher denominations. So they cannot produce *more* money, and there are not enough $20, $50 and $100 bills to support even a $500 denomination, much less a $1000 denomination.

So the weird situation might exist of hyperinflation in virtual money, and hyper-deflation of physical money, at the same time. That is, *starting* with a nickel being worth a dollar, rapidly becoming a penny worth a dollar, then a penny worth ten dollars. While at the same time, virtual money becomes worthless, because no one will accept it.

The biggest twist here is that physical money is legal tender, and virtual money is not. So creditors *must* take physical money, but they can refuse any form of virtual money. So pay in cash, or nothing.

The final blessing of having cash at home is that if there is an economic disaster and massive inflation affecting all currency, you can spend it immediately.


28 posted on 07/10/2014 8:38:51 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: P-Marlowe
If I was a little ahead of the game I'd be looking to invest in a wrecker service. There are going to be a lot more broken down cars that need towing in the future.

I'd probably work out an arrangement to share the profits with the driver, and I'd have GPS tracking installed to keep the driver honest.

If I had big bucks to invest I'd be looking at the nation of Panama (in fact, one of my own aspirations is to open an office there).

29 posted on 07/10/2014 8:52:50 AM PDT by The Duke ("Forgiveness is between them and God, it's my job to arrange the meeting.")
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

hmmmm, sounds like I should get out of everything.

And get a 1% CD. yippee!


30 posted on 07/10/2014 9:27:10 AM PDT by yorkiemom ( "...if fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Java4Jay
Yeah right.

Does anyone really think the Fed will take away the punch bowl?

Does the Fed really want to crash the market back to 13.5 by Christmas?

The Fed has hooked Wall Street on free meth/money and if the junkie goes cold turkey, he's gonna be real real sick.

Plus, does anyone think that Barry's boys will let this happen on Barry's watch and send a weak economy into big recession?

Nope, nope and nope.

The Fed as pusher is here to stay for a long long time, until something outside blows the whole rotten scheme up.

31 posted on 07/10/2014 10:05:57 AM PDT by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: PTBAA

Correct.

This is a play at the 2016 elections. Crash the economy (well, it is really dead, this just removes the life support)right before mid terms and blame it on the TEA party conservatives.

In two years, proclaim an emergency of some sort and the game is over.


32 posted on 07/10/2014 12:25:17 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Java4Jay
So we may see the bond collapse soon then. Next year might be interesting indeed with much more shocking "unexpected" consequences than heretofore seen.

What kind of politicians would millions of currently politically active and influential voters choose, if they knew that they were about to unemployed and homeless for the rest of their unnatural lives?

Heavy Hitters: Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2014
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php
American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $60,949,129 [Democrat] 81% [Republican] 1%”
National Cmte to Preserve Social Security & Medicare $10,414,606 [Democrat] 82% [Republican] 17%

Oh. They've already been chatting it up with us and fooling most of us.

Leviathan (Uncle Sam employs more people than you think)
National Review ^ | 02/03/2011 | Iain Murray
"...nearly 40 million Americans employed in some way by government."

Spendthrift ways are ways of government-linked socialists.

About "70 million" people are receiving good incomes but are also steeped in debt and can't borrow more for big ticket items. Meanwhile,...

Wait a minute! Where did the real private sector go? Oh...regulations and HOAs outlawed them from building homes, producing in small shops, doing odd jobs, etc.

More Than 101 Million Working Age Americans Do Not Have A Job
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3005481/posts


And how might foreign enemies try to take advantage of the situation? Granted, many not-so-loyal Americans among us have already shown that they don't care (psychotic influential constituents).


33 posted on 07/10/2014 12:39:09 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: PTBAA

Well if the crash is inevitable we can all get fabulously rich like John Paulson and laugh at everybody.

Just tell me when to load up on shorts and puts!


34 posted on 07/10/2014 12:41:08 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: Java4Jay
Timing of this is interesting. Let's wait and find out what the 2nd Q GDP is.
35 posted on 07/10/2014 12:41:30 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: Java4Jay
BRIC nations have been making deals for years to trade in their own currencies. It's obvious as to where many investors are going, after much news has been sponsored to scare their peers away from the same.

China second-quarter GDP seen steady at 7.4 percent, recovery in sight
Reuters
By Xiaoyi Shao and Koh Gui Qing
BEIJING Mon Jul 7, 2014 3:30am EDT
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/07/us-china-economy-gdp-idUSKBN0FC08920140707


36 posted on 07/10/2014 12:58:53 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: PTBAA

“This way the inevitable crash can be blamed on the Republicans who will have kept the House and just retaken (I hope) the Senate.”

i’ll take it


37 posted on 07/10/2014 12:58:59 PM PDT by willywill
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

“And paper money and coin cannot be hyperinflated”

I thought that was the basis of hyperinflation, and the stories of paper money in wheel barrels during the weimer republic?


38 posted on 07/10/2014 1:05:30 PM PDT by willywill
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To: demshateGod

I hope you are right.


39 posted on 07/10/2014 2:18:09 PM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: P-Marlowe
As someone said above - the market indices will go down. They've been propped up by the FED "Twist".

Inflation cuts across numerous commodities and assets. So if you move to cash now - then commodities / assets should drop in price - you can reinvest opportunistically.

I'd say ammo is always a safe bet - keeps you safe, fills the freezer, and needs to be replaced due to consumption...

40 posted on 07/10/2014 2:29:05 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Liberals see what they believe; Conservatives believe what they see.)
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