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The (Gaza) question that must be answered
FrontPage Magazine ^ | 07/15/2014 | MICHAEL FREUND

Posted on 07/15/2014 5:18:34 AM PDT by SJackson

The surest way to minimize the number of Palestinian rockets is to maximize Israeli control over Gaza. Allowing Hamas to command territory enables it to rearm, rebuild, reorganize for next round of fighting. idf soldier

With Israel poised to launch a ground operation in the Gaza Strip, the country finds itself at an important crossroads, one that could determine the strategic environment for many years to come.

The daily barrage of rocket fire, coupled with the ability of Hamas missiles to reach as far as Haifa, has once again brought to the fore a critical question, one that Israeli society and its leaders have wrestled with for much of the past decade but never really answered.

Simply put, it boils down to this: what price are we willing to pay to stamp out the threat from Hamas once and for all? For as previous experience has shown, limited military operations against Hamas in Gaza have had limited and largely lackluster results.

Operation Cast Lead, launched in December 2008, was aimed at halting Hamas rocket attacks on southern Israel and putting an end to its smuggling of weapons. Needless to say, in the long run it achieved neither objective, although there was a short-term drop in the number of rockets and projectiles fired by Hamas in the two years following the three-week-long operation.

The same holds true for the November 2012 Operation Pillar of Defense, during which Israeli air power delivered punishing blows to Hamas’ military infrastructure throughout the strip. In the eight-day long operation, the IDF struck some 1,500 targets, including launching pads, rocket manufacturing facilities and storehouses of weapons.

Once a cease-fire was reached, the government insisted that its goals had been fulfilled and that security and calm were in the offing. Nonetheless, in an ominous sign of what was yet to come, Palestinian terrorists fired 12 rockets at Israel from Gaza during the first hour after the cease-fire had taken effect.

True, as a result of Operation Pillar of Defense, 2013 saw the lowest number of Gaza rockets launched against Israel in over a decade, with a total of just 36 for the entire year.

But the relative quiet of last year proved to be short-lived, as we have all come to see in recent weeks. In effect, whatever damage was done in 2012 to Hamas’ capability to strike Israel bought us a mere 18 months of occasional quiet and failed to forestall the present wave of attacks.

In light of this experience, it is imperative that Israel consider carefully just what it aims to achieve with the current campaign, Operation Protective Edge, both in the short and long term.

Last Wednesday, in a revealing interview on Channel 10 news, former Israeli national security adviser Yaakov Amidror, a retired major-general, spoke candidly about Israel’s past failings and the challenge that it currently faces.

“We’ve never [landed] a crushing blow that hurt the other side’s ability to launch missiles,” he said.

Stating that Israel could retake Gaza in under two weeks, Amidror added that the only way to ensure a complete end to rocket attacks would be “to retake Gaza and be there for six months to a year to clean it out.”

“Only then,” he said, “will we be in a situation where they won’t fire at Israel.”

Although such an approach would undoubtedly result in large numbers of Israeli casualties and enormous international pressure on the Jewish state, Amidror said he believes that “eventually there will be no choice.”

It all comes down, he pointed out, to “how much we are willing to pay for quiet in the south.”

Few of us, myself included, have the military knowledge, access to intelligence or acquaintance with the diplomatic moves going on behind the scenes to offer much in the way of an informed opinion about whether Israeli ground forces should now enter the strip.

But one thing is certainly clear: the surest way to minimize the number of Palestinian rockets is to maximize Israeli control over Gaza. Allowing a terrorist organization such as Hamas to command territory enables it to rearm, rebuild and reorganize for the next round of fighting.

As of this writing, Palestinian terrorists in Gaza have fired over 940 rockets at Israel since last week.

If the government agrees to an end to hostilities now, there might be quiet for a year or two, but we will simply find ourselves in a similar situation once again, as soon as Hamas decides that it is ready for another confrontation.

And that means that much of Israel, especially the south, will continue to live in the shadow of Hamas’ rocket arsenal.

Alternatively, Israel can push into Gaza with all its might, reassert control over the entire area and begin the messy and lengthy process of uprooting and cleaning out the Hamas presence. But that will neither be easy nor risk-free.

This is the quandary that Israel’s society and government now face. Either we learn to live with intermittent rocket fire, or we return to Gaza for a prolonged, and possibly open-ended, period.

It is a difficult dilemma, one that most of us have been avoiding for years. But we cannot and must not continue to do so. The time has come to confront this predicament, and to stop procrastinating along the way.

Whatever choice is ultimately made, let’s just hope it brings us all the security and peace of mind that we so richly deserve


TOPICS: Editorial; Israel
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1 posted on 07/15/2014 5:18:34 AM PDT by SJackson
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2 posted on 07/15/2014 5:18:56 AM PDT by SJackson (government tampers with a freedom so fundamental, one shudders to think what lies ahead. Card Dolan)
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To: SJackson
But one thing is certainly clear: the surest way to minimize the number of Palestinian rockets is to maximize Israeli control over Gaza.

So the IDF goes into Gaza, where they are easier targets for snipers, IEDs, and suicide bombers. Wonderful.

How about "The surest way to minimize the number of Palestinian rockets is to not have any Palestinians in Gaza"

3 posted on 07/15/2014 5:36:42 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: SJackson

Ashes to Ashes, dust to dust. Pick one or both. Bye bye Gaza


4 posted on 07/15/2014 5:47:28 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (#DELETE *.* GOV)
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To: PapaBear3625

The Ø regime could be key to a long term solution, if only they apply to Gaza what they do best here.

Ø and his gang of thugs could get together, secretly behind closed doors, with no C-Span access, with the Palies... Israel would be excluded... and come up with an Affordable Rocket Act that would at least on the surface, guarantee access to free rockets to all Palies. They would “pass” this act late at night... quickly after publicly announcing it (little time to read the details of how one gets rockets). You’d literally have to pass it to see what rockets were inside it. Like the ACA here with health care, it would eventually lead to shortages of rockets and ultimately a collapse of Rocket manufactures altogether.


5 posted on 07/15/2014 5:48:47 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: SJackson

The moslems NEVER honor a ceasefire or any other treaty. They always use the ceasefire time to rearm and re-equip.

Eradication of islam is the only permanent answer. (And it is one that we must do if we are to survive as a free (non-islamic) culture)


6 posted on 07/15/2014 6:19:09 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: SJackson
The ONLY language HAMAS and ALL OTHER JIHADIS is the language of bombs. Anything else is a waste of time. Can we lend Israel 2 B-52’s for a few passes over Gaza?
7 posted on 07/15/2014 6:21:02 AM PDT by Netz
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To: SJackson

Gaza was a thriving, industrial and agricultural community. Why did the Isaelis give it up? I understand with a short time, all the businesses there were over run. Buildings damaged and looted. I mean, the real losers were the majority of hard working Palestinians and Jews and Egyptians who all worked there side by side.


8 posted on 07/15/2014 6:33:16 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: nikos1121

I just found the answer to my question.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3180422/posts

Gaza is needed as it basically puts all your bad guys in one spot that is easy for Isreal to knock off from time to time.


9 posted on 07/15/2014 6:36:11 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: SJackson
...Palestinian terrorists fired 12 rockets at Israel from Gaza during the first hour after the cease-fire had taken effect.

All anyone needs to know about palis and truces.

10 posted on 07/15/2014 6:57:35 AM PDT by CPOSharky (I was born with nothing, and I still have most of it.)
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To: SJackson
only way to ensure a complete end to rocket attacks would be “to retake Gaza and be there for six months to a year to clean it out.”

No. the only way to stop the rockets and whatever other mayhem Hamas the Moslems in Gaza can come up with is to push the all the current residents of Gaza into Sinai and the Mediterranean. Treating the problem as a gang of hoodlums that needs to be excorcised from an otherwise peaceful population is a fool's errand. They are Moslems. Read their manual. It will not stop until everyone surviving in the world is Moslem or until no one is.

11 posted on 07/15/2014 7:10:21 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: Netz

All the Islamic world would become lethargic and quiescent if we would do the one thing necessary to accomplish that ene. That is to utterly destroy the primary Moslem power center. Right now that would be Iran and the emerging “caliphate.” Then we would have to colonize the ME oil- take it with no compensation. That oil is what fuels this era’s Jihad. All of that would remove the resources for jihad and would convince the entire Moslem world that Allah does not will for Islam to prevail in this generation. Anything less will result in continued Islamic War and continued Islamic advance including the near term Islamization of Europe and the medium term Islamization of Latin America.


12 posted on 07/15/2014 8:17:54 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: arthurus
In Islam there are two forms of existence, and this for ALL Muslims, not just the “extremists”:

Dar Al Islam - A perfect world of Islam, in balance, where all others have been converted or killed.

Dar Al Hareb - An imperfect world balance where Islam lives on the sword (Hareb) until they can reach that eternal state of grace, Dar Al-Islam.

That's it in a nutshell and this is the goal of every TRUE Muslim.

13 posted on 07/15/2014 10:31:28 AM PDT by Netz
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To: SJackson
So the entire world is clamoring about Isreal giving up their literally God Given land for peace, so under enormous pressure Sharon removes all settlers and gives Gaza up for peace.

Aerial Sharon died because of this move and now they have 100's of rockets every day raining down on them from Gaza!!! So now they are supposed to just take it and give more land for "peace" so the Palestinians are even closer to Tel Aviv to bomb?

Why can't people see the injustice of this all. Israel is just trying to protect themselves, what do the world powers expect them to do?

14 posted on 07/15/2014 1:52:09 PM PDT by thirst4truth (Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil - it has no point.)
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