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1 posted on 07/17/2014 12:19:08 PM PDT by PoloSec
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To: PoloSec

Great idea, but the dems would do whatever judge shopping was necessary to get it struck down.


2 posted on 07/17/2014 12:24:21 PM PDT by ScottinVA (If it doesn't include border security, it isn't "reform." It's called "amnesty.")
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To: upchuck

FYI


3 posted on 07/17/2014 12:24:58 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: PoloSec

This is pure theatrics. I won’t pass the Senate (maybe Reid will not even put it up to a vote) and in any event a certain presidential veto. So what’s the point about all this? Unless Congress acts, illegals are entitled to free k-12 education. What does the Bill do to this? Driver’s licenses for illegals? The Bill does not address any of this.


4 posted on 07/17/2014 12:25:27 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: PoloSec

Can you imagine what it would be like if they were successful in infringing on our right to bear arms? Totally at the mercy of our political ‘masters’.


5 posted on 07/17/2014 12:26:26 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: PoloSec; All

So what...

DHS, and ICE are Federal lackies...They will not do their jobs regardless of the provisions (in this legislative Act) that allow the states to step in and “help” those Federal agencies to do theirs...

So we are back to square one...

It seems to me local civilian activists opposing this “redistribution” of illegals into the country for “processing” is picking up steam...

The more the Feds try to keep it quiet, the more local law enforcement agencies are tipping off locals to the plan...

Just remember, the narratives that pass for news these days is already been supplanted on this particular issue by the airliner that was just shot down over the Ukraine...


6 posted on 07/17/2014 12:27:32 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I will settle for a "perfectly good, gently used" kidney...Apply within...)
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To: PoloSec

I like Mark Levin’s advice to the border state governors.

1. Say “I have a pen and a phone” and send the state police and the National Guard to the border and start arresting illegal aliens as they come across.

2. When the 0bama administration says that is illegal say “So sue me!”


9 posted on 07/17/2014 12:29:33 PM PDT by forgotten man
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To: PoloSec

Its up to the local communities to solve problems dumped in their back yards by the feds.

If there is now an Obama Kamp in your city; local officials and local LEO’s need to cut power and services to that illegal kamp, load all illegals on school buses and promplty deliver them to any local federal facility such as an army base.


11 posted on 07/17/2014 12:30:41 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: PoloSec

Perhaps governors of the border states that are so inclined can simply take their OWN executive actions and reinterpret whatever laws are necessary to allow them to arrest, detain and deport those who enter illegally.


18 posted on 07/17/2014 12:54:51 PM PDT by NCLaw441
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Thank you for referencing that article PoloSec. Please bear in mind that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

"Grants States and Localities the Authority to Enforce Immigration Laws: ..."

FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

Patriots may admire Rep. Gowdy as a John Wayne-type cowboy, but the absurd language above from the proposed SAFE Act begs the question if Gowdy was present when HoR RINOs read the Constitution out loud at the beginnings of the 2011 and 2013 legislative sessions.

As mentioned in related threads concerning so-called federal government power to regulation, please consider the following. Politically correct interpretations of the Constitution's "uniform Rule of Naturalization" Clause aside, Clause 4 of Section 8 of Article I, the states have never delegated to Congress, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate immigration, immigration a 10th Amendment-protected state power. Unique state power to regulate immigration is evdenced by the following excerpt from Thomas Jefferson's writings.

“4. _Resolved_, That alien friends are under the jurisdiction and protection of the laws of the State wherein they are: that no power over them has been delegated to the United States, nor prohibited to the individual States, distinct from their power over citizens. And it being true as a general principle, and one of the amendments to the Constitution having also declared, that “the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people,” the act of the Congress of the United States, passed on the — day of July, 1798, intituled “An Act concerning aliens,” which assumes powers over alien friends, not delegated by the Constitution, is not law, but is altogether void, and of no force [emphasis added].” —Thomas Jefferson, Draft of the Kentucky Resolutions - October 1798.

Rep. Gowdy evidently doesn't understand the federal government's constitutionally limited power well enough to know that the burden is on Congress to petition the states for an amendment to the Constitution which would delegate to Congress the specific power regulate immigration if the states chose to ratify it.

As a side note concerning the federal government's constitutionally limited powers, please consider the following. The states would sure be a dull, boring place to grow up and live in if parents were to make sure that their children were taught about the federal government's constitutionally limited powers as the Founding States had intended for those powers to be understood. /sarc

Thomas Jefferson had put it this way:

“Cherish, therefore, the spirit of our people, and keep alive their attention. If once they become inattentive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, judges and governors, shall all become wolves. It seems to be the law of our general nature.” - Thomas Jefferson (Letter to Edward Carrington January 16, 1787)

19 posted on 07/17/2014 12:59:56 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: PoloSec

Thanks for posting this. Trey Gowdy is getting more and more of my respect and admiration. This is the first viable solution that I have coming from anyone in DC.


20 posted on 07/17/2014 1:05:49 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: PoloSec

The feds are annihilating state police jurisdictions by imposing and aiding gangs who are asserting narco human traffic jurisdictional protections.


24 posted on 07/17/2014 1:20:51 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: PoloSec
Good idea, ought no be necessary, if not for Obama's insane lawsuit against Arizona. Bad news, even if it gets a vote in Dingy Harry's Senate, Obama obviously won't sign it. It would be good to have this bill ready to sign on January 20, 2017 as the fastest way to get law enforcement on the border.

The border States ought to enforce the border now without waiting for the Feds and ignore their squealing. They have their citizens to protect.

41 posted on 07/18/2014 8:23:02 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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