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The Collapse of America - A Plan Decades in the Making
Freedom Outpost ^ | July 14, 2014 | David Risselada

Posted on 07/17/2014 3:25:54 PM PDT by drypowder

While many people are awakening to the Obama administration and their attempts to undermine our national sovereignty, it must be stated that this has been an ongoing effort for many, many decades. Barrack Obama is merely a tool selected to get an already conditioned population to accept the final stages of a plan that will see the United States surrender its sovereignty and merge into a global governing structure where she will no longer be respected as a world super power, but viewed merely as another third world nation that is morally equivalent to all others. There are three main pillars of our society and culture that need to be changed from the inside in order for this transformation to take place; immigration, education and the military.

As the crisis along our border escalates, we are hearing more and more on the whole situation being a planned event to precipitate the total collapse of our nation. Even congressmen are coming out and calling this a deliberate application of the Cloward & Piven strategy. For those who may not know, the Cloward & Piven strategy was the work of two Sociology Professors at Columbia University, Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven, designed to organize the nation's poor and minorities into a power base from which the country, through the democratic process, could be converted into a socialist state. One of the key components of this strategy was the idea of overwhelming the nation's welfare system to the point where it collapses, and the government would then be forced to adapt socialism.

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We see the destruction of this country happening and there is something new and more devastating seemingly every few days. Those in DC playing good cop bad cop are relying on their lies to keep the people appeased and distracted until there is no possibility of ever salvaging the USA that was given to us by our founding fathers.
1 posted on 07/17/2014 3:25:54 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: drypowder

>> Those in DC playing good cop bad cop are relying on their lies to keep the people appeased

Certainly looks that way.


2 posted on 07/17/2014 3:31:06 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: drypowder

Not necessarily

And they are not distracting those with a sense of the foundation of this country and the rule of law


3 posted on 07/17/2014 3:32:05 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

Second it. Folks are starting to wake up.


4 posted on 07/17/2014 3:33:09 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: drypowder
The invasion of alien "children" is, obviously, a coordinated and synchronized operation.

Somewhere, there are plans, maps, and timetables.

5 posted on 07/17/2014 3:34:51 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. Hat)
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To: Biggirl

And because the foundation and simple documents of same are the guide, the cronies are frightened, off guard, baffled and defenseless as they wonder how the mindset is spread without communication


6 posted on 07/17/2014 3:36:54 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Jim Noble

Yeah well, nobody is watching the important hand, they are all now refocused on some damn airplane in the Ukraine going down. Meanwhile the US is gasping for air from an illegal invasion that will now be ignored.

The American people are too easily distracted and the O admin knows it.


7 posted on 07/17/2014 3:40:11 PM PDT by dforest
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To: drypowder

The major flaw of Cloward and Piven is that they planned for a collapse and a strategy to achieve it, but never explained what they imagine will happen after the collapse.

Third world dictatorships are great for the handful at the top who wield all the power and have all the money. For everyone else, they are miserable. Why anyone would want such a system is incomprehensible. We can only hope that the low information voters who have enabled the Cloward Piven strategy realize that the left emotionally manipulated them to get their vote... but the fact that they are so open to being manipulated means they are unlikely to recognize that it is happening.


8 posted on 07/17/2014 3:49:49 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: exDemMom
Why anyone would want such a system is incomprehensible.

Security and civil order versus chaos and strife. If the country descends into riots and chaos, the man on horseback looks very attractive.,

9 posted on 07/17/2014 4:04:22 PM PDT by kabar
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To: yorkiemom; null and void; laplata; Gluteus Maximus; Salvavida; Foundahardheadedwoman; baddog 219; ..

CWII Spark — Not really a spark, but bather relevant.


10 posted on 07/17/2014 4:10:33 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: kabar
The advantage to the collapse of the current system is that it will offer a chance to "clean up" without guilt. The question is how much "cleansing" we can inflict without gagging.

The Left is assuming that we won't react until it is too late. (They aren't nearly as bright as they believe themselves to be.)

11 posted on 07/17/2014 4:41:02 PM PDT by jonascord (Laeti vescimur nos subacturis)
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To: drypowder

The problem is that when the welfare state collapses many of us think that rather than “adopt socialism” we need to cut off the money and let people go back to work and be productive.

It stuns me that we have people who don’t realize that without productivity there can only be poverty.


12 posted on 07/17/2014 4:48:19 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Biggirl

Maybe in time, we’ll see. Zer0 seems to be getting his nuts in a vice. I hope so


13 posted on 07/17/2014 4:57:10 PM PDT by reefdiver (Be the Best you can be Whatever you Dream to be)
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To: reefdiver

Ha! There’s no there there.


14 posted on 07/17/2014 4:59:17 PM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: exDemMom

Cloward is dead as a hammer I understand but Piven is still walking around, that and the fact that Bill Ayers is also among the quick amazes me.

My neighbor was telling me about another Malaysian airliner going down and a lady I know felt she also had to tell me and show her concern. I told them both that I did not know anyone on it and really do not care about this. Call me hardhearted.

The American people have an attention span of roughly 12 minutes which I think is the average between tv commercials, my opinion is that we were trained by the tv, luckily I read and we only had tv occasionally.

I think this was intentional and also explains many peoples instant gratification problem, short marriages, low savings rate, unruly kids, and the insane belief in global warming. Remember pet rocks? Only a society with an average IQ of room temperature would have fallen for that. By the way I do have one for sale still in its box.

The people that have fallen for the left’s constant pandering are like one of the old 33 records with a scratch that repeats over and over the same snatch of song, as the General said, they are stuck on stupid.


15 posted on 07/17/2014 5:06:03 PM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: drypowder

http://radicalconservativerisso.blogspot.com/2014/07/a-plan-decades-in-makingdavid-risselada.html

These guys have it down. It was all pre-planned. It was immigration, military and education. In the end they will come for our guns. That’s when you know the end is near and a communist takeover is imminent.
really good read above.


16 posted on 07/17/2014 5:14:24 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepI guess it does payublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: jonascord
A collapse will lead to a bigger, more repressive government.

The demography of this country is rapidly changing. We are being colonized by the Third World. By 2019 half of the children 18 and under will be minorities as classified by the USG and by 2043 we will be a majority-minority country. We have entered the era of tribal politics.

17 posted on 07/17/2014 5:18:43 PM PDT by kabar
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To: drypowder

My old boss was into this stuff; he use to say that he liked to keep his staff fighting each other. I thought he was nuts at the time, but now I understand


18 posted on 07/17/2014 5:26:46 PM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

Cloward and Pivin thought diversity in our population was manageable and could be used to achieve their purposes. However, one look at world history will show you that no country with a diverse population of different races, languages, and religion has long survived.

Countries don’t naturally form with a diverse population, and when in the past they’ve occurred it’s usually been as a result of armed conquest. These unnaturally formed countries have either melded together into a single population made up of one mixed race with one language and one religion or they’ve come apart, and they’ve usually come apart with extreme violence. The longer these diverse populations are forced to coexist with one another without mixing and becoming one, the more the hatred grows among them and the more violently they break apart, but break apart they will, or genocide will settle the issue once and for all.

Why is this and why can’t we all just get along? The truth of the matter is that we (the human race) just aren’t as civilized as we would like to think we are. Our species, Homo-sapiens-sapiens, isn’t that long “out of the trees” and the veneer of civilization is very thin, to non-existent, upon us all. We’re all carrying the genes that got us here and some of those genes carry a very basic survival instinct that has allowed us to survive thus far.

This most basic of all survival instincts is self preservation and it’s the one that warns us to be very wary of those who are different than us, our family, and our tribe. Those who possessed this survival instinct survived and reproduced, and those who had no fear/distrust of strangers didn’t survive. Over the years, this survival instinct has been referred to as tribalism, nationalism, ethnocentrism, racism, and various other isms, but it’s an inborn instinct carried in our genes whether we like it or not.

This “celebration” of diversity and multiculturalism in the American population was introduced in the 1960s and 70s as a deliberate divisive revolutionary tool wielded by Marxists like Saul Alinsky, Bill Ayers and other radicals. It became dogma taught by Marxists in our universities, then spread by our leftist controlled news media and leftist controlled Hollywood. The intent was, and is, to split American culture along race and class lines and set off a “proletarian” revolution to destroy capitalism. The Left has now managed to elect a half-Black radical as President and their revolution is proceeding along very predictable lines, with him using every opportunity to stir up more division and discontent. A reading of the Constitution of the Revolutionary Communist Party, USA at this link should make clear their goals and methods: http://revcom.us/Constitution/constitution.html

At the beginning of the 21st Century, the American people are about to learn the savage lesson of Communist Revolution that the Russian people learned at the beginning of the last century. Millions died in Russia’s Communist “experiment” before they learned that Communism just doesn’t work, as the concept of Communism (“You didn’t build that”) is completely alien to basic human nature. Now it’s our turn to learn what Russia after a century of death and misery now knows.

However, the coming American Communist Revolution that Karl Marx and his acolyte Barack Hussein Obama is bringing upon us won’t progress in the comparatively orderly fashion as it did with the Bolsheviks in Russia. The cursed diversity within the U.S. population will quickly turn this Communist Revolution into a no-holds-barred, and to-the-death, Race War. How our country with its Constitution intact could possibly survive such a blood-bath is a near impossibility. It once appeared as if our country might one day become a mixed race people of olive skinned, brown eyed, black haired, Spanish speaking Muslims, but Barack Hussein Obama has started a Communist Revolution that will undoubtedly destroy any possibility of that ever occurring.

There is no expiration date on any of our survival instincts, and white Liberal Democrats in their “Gun Free” zones will be the first among us to be reminded of this at the very beginning of our coming Communist Revolution turned Race War, as the American experiment in Democracy joins all previous Democracies in the dust-bin of history.


19 posted on 07/17/2014 6:04:09 PM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war,and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: rodguy911

GOOD READ ! ????
thank You for cheering me up.

what do You think we have,,
5 or 10 yrs?

geez


20 posted on 07/17/2014 6:31:37 PM PDT by Big Red Badger ( - William Diamonds Drum - can You Hear it G man?)
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To: OneWingedShark; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; ...

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don't add you to the list...

21 posted on 07/17/2014 7:06:52 PM PDT by null and void (If Bill Clinton was the first black president, why isn't Barack Obama the first woman president?)
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To: DJ Taylor

This commentary was far superior to the article.


22 posted on 07/17/2014 8:08:12 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: DJ Taylor

‘Cloward and Pivin thought diversity in our population was manageable and could be used to achieve their purposes’

I tend to think that these two liked the idea of being the cause of the destruction that will be visited on our country. Along with Alinsky, Ayers, Holder, Obama and his henchmen these are simply evil people, destruction and death is their holy grail.

‘Countries don’t naturally form with a diverse population, and when in the past they’ve occurred it’s usually been as a result of armed conquest. These unnaturally formed countries have either melded together into a single population made up of one mixed race with one language and one religion or they’ve come apart, and they’ve usually come apart with extreme violence.’

Yugoslavia and Iraq come to mind, both had murderous thugs as leaders and after them, chaos and death quickly followed.

‘Why is this and why can’t we all just get along? The truth of the matter is that we (the human race) just aren’t as civilized as we would like to think we are.’

No, we are not, the knock out game proves that.

‘We’re all carrying the genes that got us here and some of those genes carry a very basic survival instinct that has allowed us to survive thus far.’

I believe some of us carry an aggression gene also, those who can not control it end up dead, in prison, or in politics. I know because I carry it.

‘Now it’s our turn to learn what Russia after a century of death and misery now knows.’

Those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. We are slow learners.

‘The cursed diversity within the U.S. population will quickly turn this Communist Revolution into a no-holds-barred, and to-the-death, Race War.’

A few blacks are waking up, the illegals just don’t care, and the picture you paint is the most likely outcome.

‘There is no expiration date on any of our survival instincts, and white Liberal Democrats in their “Gun Free” zones will be the first among us to be reminded of this at the very beginning of our coming Communist Revolution turned Race War’

From your pen to God’s eyes.

I view Marxism in America not as a means to a utopian dream but as camouflage for the creation of a thugocracy. I think I just made up that word but it describes what I see. These are just criminals, thugs, and bullies in Robin Hood clothing. They will destroy the capitalist system but they will still need some of it. Since they have no practical skills they will still need a few of us. If some other country takes over what remains, China or Russia seem likely candidates, then we won’t be needed, the silver lining is that the Marxists won’t be either.

I agree with pretty much everything you say and you may well be right as to the race war. I think this is why the masks are dropping away so often of late, it is that more and more people of all colors are starting to wake up to what Obama and his kind really are. As the Bible says, “But woe be to you, O earth and sea, for the devil has come down to you in great wrath, because he knows that his time is short.” Revelation 12:12 ESV


23 posted on 07/17/2014 8:54:59 PM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: null and void

They need more duct tape to keep their brains from leaking out


24 posted on 07/17/2014 8:58:44 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Lazamataz

“This commentary was far superior to the article.”

I agree.


25 posted on 07/17/2014 9:02:28 PM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: exDemMom

“The major flaw of Cloward and Piven is that they planned for a collapse and a strategy to achieve it, but never explained what they imagine will happen after the collapse.

Third world dictatorships are great for the handful at the top who wield all the power and have all the money. For everyone else, they are miserable. Why anyone would want such a system is incomprehensible. We can only hope that the low information voters who have enabled the Cloward Piven strategy realize that the left emotionally manipulated them to get their vote... but the fact that they are so open to being manipulated means they are unlikely to recognize that it is happening.”

OTOH if it happens soon, there will be enough of us that remember the Constitution and history. Not to mention that we are we’ll-armed. Extremely we’ll-armed.

It could backfire on them.


26 posted on 07/17/2014 9:09:37 PM PDT by yorkiemom ( "...if fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

“Since they have no practical skills they will still need a few of us.”

But we’ll be in Galt’s Gulch.


27 posted on 07/17/2014 9:12:21 PM PDT by yorkiemom ( "...if fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: yorkiemom

Send map. Am packed.


28 posted on 07/17/2014 9:26:26 PM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: Jim Noble; paythefiddler; LucyT; null and void; rolling_stone; bitt; Nachum; Venturer; ...

Unless they’ve been destroyed, like the FAA records for the Fuddy “accident”. Or so the FAA said in their official FOIA response to me... I’m told somebody will go to jail over this.

I gave an interview about it and a bunch of other stuff. The link can be found at http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2014/07/16/faa-claims-fuddy-crash-records-destroyed/


29 posted on 07/17/2014 9:26:38 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: yorkiemom
But we’ll be in Galt’s Gulch.

Which is great except the fed drones will wax "our" collective asses.

"Anti Govmit, tax evading, extremists" and all that.

30 posted on 07/17/2014 10:00:11 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

LOL!


31 posted on 07/17/2014 10:19:07 PM PDT by yorkiemom ( "...if fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Doomonyou

I’m sure that’s why drones were developed. To find and take us dissenters out.


32 posted on 07/17/2014 10:20:05 PM PDT by yorkiemom ( "...if fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman
>"Those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it."

Those that do, are doomed to watch those that didn't.

33 posted on 07/17/2014 10:49:04 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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To: butterdezillion
I bet old Fuddy is still alive and well at the Subud compound in Indonesia.

These liars think that just because it's on video, it's gotta be believed.

34 posted on 07/17/2014 10:51:08 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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To: rawcatslyentist

They know they’ve got people who will ridicule anybody who points out what really shows up in the video. It’s a critical piece of their puzzle.

And they know they’ve got people who will censor the information from getting visibility in places it’s likely to be taken seriously. Another critical piece of the puzzle.

Crooks are crooks, and there will always be crooks. The lawlessness we’ve got today is because the people who are supposed to expose and stop the crooks won’t. Those are the people who hold America’s future in their hands. Those are the people who are on trial right now. We get the government we deserve, and God has intervened to make sure that everyone will have a chance to see the truth. If the people of America see that they are returning to their vomit and do it anyway, there will be no reason for the Lord to spare this country what is coming. He’s giving us a chance to reject the path we’ve taken - those who cover for the crimes of the regime.

If OUR apathy keeps us from getting our Congress members to do anything even after Fast and Furious, Benghazi, IRS-gate, NSA-gate, Extortion 17, Boston Marathon cover-up, and UAC-gate - followed by the evidence Arpaio is going to bring forward - then we deserve all that lawlessness, and it will kill us and the country.


35 posted on 07/18/2014 6:11:03 AM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: butterdezillion

Just as with SAD’s passport and immigration records pre-1965, just like the IRS and FEC emails. Looks like the Obaminstas learned from Nixon’s mistake for not having destroyed incriminating evidence (the tapes).


36 posted on 07/18/2014 6:15:12 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (‘You can avoid reality, but you can’t avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.’)
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To: drypowder

Treason bump for read later...


37 posted on 07/18/2014 6:18:40 AM PDT by newfreep
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To: butterdezillion

I can’t believe the FAA is using the “destroyed” excuse. This is criminal. Thank you for posting. I tried looking for their report last month on the site. Nada.


38 posted on 07/18/2014 6:24:38 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: Gene Eric; drypowder

No surprise here. Krustjev and other Russians promised this in the making from within inside the U.S. long ago, and Soebarkah is grabbing it with the help of Alinski disciple KILLARY!!!


39 posted on 07/18/2014 6:26:24 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman; exDemMom

You got to wonder about9/11 flight 93 with no wreckage visible when you see this MH17 scattered all over place for miles???


40 posted on 07/18/2014 6:31:28 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: butterdezillion; Jim Noble; paythefiddler; LucyT; null and void; rolling_stone; bitt; Nachum; ...
But beyond that, the FAA said that all the other records which would have been responsive to my request were destroyed.

Like Lois Lerner's hard drive, physically smashed!!!

41 posted on 07/18/2014 6:37:29 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: drypowder

This flood of wet backs will be the final nail in the coffin of the United States of America. The worship of queers by the Government leaders and the dumbing down of the sheep contributed to the demise, but the flood of illegals was the finishing touch. Why? Because once they get settled down, they will begin implementing the same culture here as they left there. Over time they will turn the United States of America into the same pig pen and hellhole as the one they left. The elected politicians in the United States Government from the Courthouse to the White House will aid and abet them at every opportunity.


42 posted on 07/18/2014 6:38:05 AM PDT by sport
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To: DJ Taylor

Your post is so informative that I have copied it so that I may paste it on other threads. well stated, DJ. I will of course give attribution ...


43 posted on 07/18/2014 6:52:27 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: danamco

Not really. MH17 was hit by a missile and brokeup mid air and at altitude. Think of the debris field across Texas and the SW from when Columbia was lost.

Flight 93 impacted intact and in a steep (near vertical, I think) dive. So a smoking hole with a limited debris field.


44 posted on 07/18/2014 6:53:38 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Brennan was placed at CIA for very specific reasons. He had proven he would do anything for the masters.


45 posted on 07/18/2014 7:16:35 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: exDemMom

Years ago in college I had a known socialist as my surveying instructor. I usually rode with him when we went to the outdoor work area which he owned. He liked to give us young guys talks on the benefits of a socialistic society. During one such time he was telling us that society was ruled by a few powerful people. As I recall he believed that the industrialists of the day were the evil society. When I countered that he was just proposing that a different group should be the powerful he cut off the discussion.


46 posted on 07/18/2014 7:36:04 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: drypowder

They are afraid of repeating the Carter mistake - when they had the right guy in office but didn’t push fast enough... and then Reagan emerged and set them back a whole generation. They want Obama to push hard now, so that even if his successor loses in 2016 there will be too much damage done and the opposition President can easily be blamed by the compliant MSM for the ongoing chaos.


47 posted on 07/18/2014 7:39:09 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL-GALT-DELETE])
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To: Jim Noble

They are importing criminals to conservative areas.
They are importing disease to major cities.
They are importing “children” (how can they prove they’re under or over 18?) who will vote in 2016, if not this fall. I won’t be surprised when most of those children, after they are “amnestied”, suddenly turn voting age.


48 posted on 07/18/2014 7:39:46 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: rawcatslyentist

‘Those that do, are doomed to watch those that didn’t. ‘

Watch hell, we’re being dragged into the pit with them, I hate it when that happens.


49 posted on 07/18/2014 8:34:14 AM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: danamco

‘You got to wonder about9/11 flight 93 with no wreckage visible when you see this MH17 scattered all over place for miles???’

I don’t know much about flight 93, never really researched it but I will say that the amount of wreckage being scattered depends on the angle that the plane was in relation to the surface. If they were fighting for the controls and were flying at 350 knots and suddenly descended nose first the speed would increase then when the plane hit it would accordion, fold up into itself. An airplane is a hollow tube if it hit belly first you would expect to find wreckage scattered a pretty good distance. It all depends on the angle that it struck the ground and the speed and I would guess how much fuel was aboard and how hot the fire was.

I fly the things I don’t crash em so really your guess is as good as mine. I have heard there was a big hole and little else, I doubt that is true, will say with a full fuel load on a passenger airplane it would burn hot and since all materials used in construction are light alloys, plastics, and maybe carbon fiber composites were used also, and also there probably would have been some cargo of who knows what, they will burn. Maybe the folks were used to seeing the aftermath on tv of a pilot who was trying not to crash but doing his best to land right side up, then the wreckage would be scattered. In this case the crazy Muzzie seeing the passengers might take control took her in nose first to kill everyone. There is so much BS about 9/11, I have looked at some but have never really gotten that interested. I am still trying to figure who killed Lincoln.


50 posted on 07/18/2014 10:44:00 AM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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