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The Obama Administration Will Seize Land from the Lakota Sioux if They arenít Stopped
PJTatler ^ | July 19, 2014 | Bonnie Ramthun

Posted on 07/19/2014 3:00:39 PM PDT by Kaslin

The only barrier standing in the way of another shameful broken treaty with our Native Americans is the U.S. Congress.

The federal government is planning to take the South Unit of Badlands National Park and turn it over to the Department of the Interior, to have it administered by the National Park Service. The NPS was in the news last year when they barricaded our national monuments and prevented elderly WWII veterans from seeing their memorial during the sequester. The NPS put up barriers along scenic look-outs so drivers couldn’t see Mt. Rushmore, and closed park entrances across the country. These brown-shirted federal agents now intend to take and control thousands of acres of Sioux land.

This intended seizure by the Obama administration reads like something out of the history books, and not the part that makes you want to wave the American flag:

“Thousands of tribe members will be affected by the land-grab. Some residents will be forced to relocate, and many more others will lose their income from grazing allotments on the land – a result which will ultimately force any remaining independent cattle ranchers out of business. In addition to all this, Tribal members will lose their share [of] income from entrance fees collected at the adjacent North Gate fees of the Badlands National Park – a punitive measure which will further compound the existing economic depression on a reservation where the average annual income is around $8,000 per year.”

The Black Hills once belonged to the Lakota Sioux in a treaty signed by the U.S. government. These sacred lands were taken from them in 1877 after gold was discovered there by an expedition led by General George Custer. This shameful act by the U.S. government can be somewhat explained away by the history of the times, when a fierce war raged between Native Americans and new settlers and bigotry about the rights of non-whites ruled the day.

What excuse does the Obama administration have for their actions today? And if Congress passes this bill, what excuse will they give to the voters who put them in office?

Here’s a petition. Here’s your representative. The Obama administration shouldn’t get away with acting like a 19th century thug and the U.S. Congress shouldn’t allow it to. The Lakota Sioux deserve better. We all do.

Photograph courtesy of Cumulo Nimbus



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KEYWORDS: americanindians; badlands; bho44; buildacasino; lakota; nps; sioux

1 posted on 07/19/2014 3:00:39 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

They don’t have much left, compared to the original treaties.


2 posted on 07/19/2014 3:02:36 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: Kaslin

Keep it up Barry, just keep it up.


3 posted on 07/19/2014 3:04:21 PM PDT by slouper (LWRC SPR 223)
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To: Kaslin

When has Congress ever stopped Obama from doing something?


4 posted on 07/19/2014 3:04:26 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Kaslin

OOooooo time to get the popcorn....


5 posted on 07/19/2014 3:06:49 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Kaslin

Back in the 40’s, .Gov took parts of the land and used it as a bombing range. Leftover bombs are still in the ground there.


6 posted on 07/19/2014 3:07:04 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Kaslin

Here’s hoping the Souix go Full Stone Age on ‘em, complete with scalpings.


7 posted on 07/19/2014 3:07:17 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and for what Muslims do.)
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To: Kaslin

It would help my anger meter to read at the full blown level IF I knew WHY the Obama Administration was breaking said treaty, and confiscating the land.

I did not see that little tidbit in the article. I guess I’ll have to search to find more on this.


8 posted on 07/19/2014 3:08:01 PM PDT by rockinqsranch ((Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.))
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To: Kaslin

“So now he’s Andrew Jackson!” (in my best Henny Youngman voice)


9 posted on 07/19/2014 3:08:01 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Kaslin

Obama-the-Undocumented will fill it with Islamic terrorists
and have them weaponize new diseases to “share”
with his OWNED other 57 States.

The EXEMPT in Congress will do nothing, of course,
as before, because native American Indians
are not Islamic terrorists and they like America
unlike Obama and the EXEMPT, selfserving hated Congress.


10 posted on 07/19/2014 3:08:23 PM PDT by Diogenesis (The EXEMPT Congress is complicit in the absence of impeachment)
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To: Kaslin

The Lakota claim the Black Hills, but the fact is, they pushed the Cheyenne off that land and took it from them in the latter part of the 18th century. They have less of a claim to that land than white men.


11 posted on 07/19/2014 3:09:48 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Very interesting ...

US gets bad PR from violating treaties, already.

Liberals/Commies/etc. generally scream about treaty violations (Native Americans, Racism, Imperialism, etc).

Usually I don’t get too fired up about reservations and treaties — things have kind of settled out, and reached equilibrium. I don’t go with more “Native” rights, but don’t mess with what they do have.

But this is beyond belief. I might almost march with them on this one.


12 posted on 07/19/2014 3:11:44 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob
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To: Kaslin

In the new Amerika, private property rights, supposedly protected past promises, and the Constitution are soon to be DOA.

They can fight it and be labeled dangerous extremists.

The only land deals allowed now are those made by people like Harry Reid.

Perhaps the Lakota Sioux could join Boehner and sue Obama.


13 posted on 07/19/2014 3:11:51 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Kaslin
I just had a college kid canvassing against the ‘red tide’ supposedly plaguing the waters around LI, refer to this nation being “built on genocide”. This of course is a reference to the Indians. I wonder if obozo chucking the Sioux off of their land and out of their livelihoods will outrage her?
14 posted on 07/19/2014 3:17:58 PM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: rockinqsranch

I can think of some possible reasons and all of them are bad

1. increase government control of land and property

2. power trip / for the heck of it - who will stop them

3. provoke us


15 posted on 07/19/2014 3:22:18 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Kaslin
"So Sioux me..."
16 posted on 07/19/2014 3:25:31 PM PDT by mikrofon (Maybe "Fauxcahontas" can mediate ;?)
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To: Kaslin

Great Black Father speak with forked tongue. Interestingly, Forked Tongue is also the Indian name of TOTUS.


17 posted on 07/19/2014 3:27:40 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (The IRS: either criminally irresponsible in backup procedures or criminally responsible of coverup.)
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To: Kaslin

Wait till the Kenyan starts using Eminent domain to seize houses for illegals, then the sh*t will REALLY hit the fan! Congress will really really REALLY do nothing!


18 posted on 07/19/2014 3:32:00 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: mikrofon

LOL! I could just see him flapping his wrist while saying that and then laughing like Paul Lynde.


19 posted on 07/19/2014 3:32:51 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: Scrambler Bob

Most of the treaties with the Indians were never honored by the US Government.

They are otherwise still valid AFAIK.


20 posted on 07/19/2014 3:42:11 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Seems to me there’s a bunch of empty houses in Detroit.

This is just insane - if I were living off “free stuff” I’d be even more pissed. And how is bringing in uneducated, disease carrying, future voting “gimmedat”s going to help Zuckerman, Gates, etc?

And Gov Patrick says oh don’t worry - “the feds will pick up the tab”? The feds don’t pick up any tab without first confiscating it from us.


21 posted on 07/19/2014 3:48:02 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: rockinqsranch

They probably want to give it to the Chinese.


22 posted on 07/19/2014 3:56:56 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: yorkiemom; null and void; laplata; Gluteus Maximus; Salvavida; Foundahardheadedwoman; baddog 219; ..

CWII Spark — Isn’t it interesting how the federal government only honors treaties when it’s convenient for them...


23 posted on 07/19/2014 4:06:12 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Kaslin

This time I do not think they will go quietly.


24 posted on 07/19/2014 4:11:32 PM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed. If you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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To: GladesGuru
They were bad asses back in the day: C. Fetterman Massacre
25 posted on 07/19/2014 4:15:30 PM PDT by Stepan12
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To: GladesGuru

How do you scalp a b.....never mind.


26 posted on 07/19/2014 4:18:43 PM PDT by matthew fuller (It's past time to impeach our illegal alien mooslim marxist president.)
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To: rockinqsranch

Why? Because he can.


27 posted on 07/19/2014 4:20:24 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: GladesGuru
Some can out-terrorize even OB's pals

In 1970, several members of AIM, including Dennis Banks and Russell Means, traveled to Mt. Rushmore. They converged at the mountain in order to protest the illegal seizure of the Sioux Nation’s sacred Black Hills in 1877 by the United States federal government, in violation of its earlier 1868 Treaty of Fort Laramie. The protest began to publicize the issues of the American Indian Movement.[2] In 1980, the US Supreme Court ruled that the federal government had illegally taken the Black Hills. The government offered financial compensation, but the Oglala Sioux have refused it, insisting on return of the land to their people. The settlement money is earning interest.

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AIM members continued to be active at Pine Ridge, although Wilson stayed in office and was re-elected in 1974 in a contested election. Violent deaths rose, and more than 60 political opponents of his died violently during the next three years. In June 1975 in what has been called the "Pine Ridge shootout", two FBI agents were killed near Jumping Bull Ranch, and found to have been shot execution style. Three AIM members were eventually indicted for the murders: Darryl Butler, Robert Robideau and Leonard Peltier, who had escaped to Canada. Darryl and Robideau were tried in 1975 and acquitted. After extradition, Peltier was tried separately and convicted in 1976. He is serving two consecutive life sentences.


28 posted on 07/19/2014 4:20:28 PM PDT by caveat emptor (!)
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To: TalBlack

If she doesn’t know about it then it never happened. Ignorance is bliss.


29 posted on 07/19/2014 4:21:58 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Kaslin

Are we going to start giving land in the USA back to the people who were here before we got here?

We’re not going to have much left, if we do that ... LOL ...

I guess “Manifest Destiny” is “out the door” and no longer valid!


30 posted on 07/19/2014 4:22:11 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Aria

A LOT of blacks are going crazy over this, a few I know did a complete 180 on the Kenyan, and I told them what do they expect? The Democraps just use blacks for votes, they use taxpayer bucks as bribes - make blacks jump up for that carrot on a stick. Then when the Democrap gets elected *BANG* they stab blacks in the back. I mean imagine that: They are using the excuse that illegals are coming here “because of drug gangs” and we should spend $3.7 BILLION (B for BILLION) on them. Meanwhile blacks are going through the same crap in inner cities, and oh boy, they love it when illegals are given priority over them.

Hopefully this will come back and bite Democraps in the ass big time when it comes to the black vote. All that needs to happen is a small fraction of blacks going 180 and Democraps will never hold another elected office again.

Look at this, this was posted today on Youtube. Blacks holding a rally AGAINST Obama!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THmGs63d6tI


31 posted on 07/19/2014 4:31:47 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: Kaslin

Wikipedia:
“In 1765, a Saône exploring and raiding party led by Chief Standing Bear discovered the Black Hills (the Paha Sapa), then the territory of the Cheyenne. Ten years later, the Oglála and Brulé also crossed the river. In 1776, the Lakota defeated the Cheyenne, who had earlier taken the region from the Kiowa. The Cheyenne then moved west to the Powder River country, and the Lakota made the Black Hills their home.”


32 posted on 07/19/2014 4:37:07 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: IronJack
Well that's certainly one way to spin history!

I've never pursued any “tribal” rights, but I do have a valid legal claim to them, via my documented unbroken maternal line of Blackfoot Sioux lineage.

The Lakota Sioux tribe absorbed what was left of my own peoples extremely decimated “tribe”, along with several others, when the supposedly “final treaty rights” were written.

I'm mostly “white”, and one of the reasons I've never tried to force myself on the Lakota, is out of respect for both them, and also my grandparents, who chose otherwise for their children.

I will always support their tribal rights.

For those who don't, fair warning, there are many people like myself who do and will.
From every state, and every conceivable walk of life.

It's pretty obvious their land is now coveted by others due to vast oil deposits that can only now be economically mined.
While I haven't kept any type of watch on tribal leaders, it seems the Lakota government is about to hit the financial jackpot for their very valuable property rights.

I still won't apply to be recognized by the tribe, but I do back their sovereign property rights, as a USA citizen.

So will most USA citizens, mixed breed or not.

33 posted on 07/19/2014 4:45:26 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

WOW, I saw the black woman in Baltimore, I think it was, and another group in Chicago - they were calling zero the worst president ever and the woman was furious that her daughter can’t go outside and play and no one does anything and then they import these kids for whatever excuse.

If Obama loses the black vote that would be the most incredible irony! Too bad the GOP is too inept to make hay out of this.


34 posted on 07/19/2014 5:16:42 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: plain talk
4. Someone with lots of money see's potential in the area for a summer resort associated with say Sturgis and said to Barry "I Want". Lot's of money goes through that area in just a few days.

That's usually how developers get other peoples land. Politician in the pocket the favorite tool of white collar thieves.

35 posted on 07/19/2014 5:24:02 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
and from the FRchives:

Lakota Indians Withdraw Treaties Signed With U.S. 150 Years Ago


36 posted on 07/19/2014 5:43:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: IronJack
The Lakota claim the Black Hills, but the fact is, they pushed the Cheyenne off that land and took it from them in the latter part of the 18th century. They have less of a claim to that land than white men.

Well now, there's some twisted logic for ya -

37 posted on 07/19/2014 6:36:47 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: Star Traveler
I guess “Manifest Destiny” is “out the door” and no longer valid!

It never WAS valid - and based on suppression of who the Indians really were, how many they were, and their cities/civilizations.

38 posted on 07/19/2014 6:42:16 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: sarasmom

Property rights?

Firstly, Indians were killing each other a lot, and taking land from one another. Before everything was civilized, there was lots of genocides going on. I’m not saying the white man did anything better, but let’s be honest. The reservations need to go and the tax dollars need to stop. That is a form of slavery.

In other news, they’ve determined that the Indians weren’t even here first. They’ve found remains that predate everything Indian, artifacts and remains. It should be noted that the remains were white boys.

Based on that, I should be getting reparations and my land back etc etc. Instead, I choose to earn a living, move to follow work if needed, and provide for my family.


39 posted on 07/19/2014 7:00:49 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: sarasmom

Really liked your posting on this topic.

Aside, does anyone know what the legal authority is for the Natl. Park Service (or whatever it’s called) to claim land? It must be part of the Bureau of Land Mgt., I guess, so the question applies there, as well.

The Congress should cut their budgets to funding maintenance and Rangers in National Parks, while eliminating about 80% of the bureaucrats.


40 posted on 07/20/2014 4:28:00 AM PDT by octex
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To: IronJack

Yea, but the federal government recognized it and recorded it in a treaty so the prior “ownership” is moot.

With todays administration and bureaucracy, if it was populated with demons, like Churchill’s remark in WWII, I’d probably “be disposed to put in a good word for them in the house of representatives”...


41 posted on 07/20/2014 3:13:11 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Axenolith

Admittedly. I’d side with the Indians on this one. But I do get tired of that “sacred lands” crap. Everyplace an Indian ever took a dump is supposed to be sacred ground these days.


42 posted on 07/20/2014 4:53:20 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: octex
That's a really good question.

Most of the “legal authority” stems from a time when there were no States west of the Mississippi.
Most people,who live east of the Mississippi don't quite grasp the vast amount of USA territory the feds have complete legal jurisdiction over.

This should not apply to tribal reservation lands, but as the recent stand-off in Nevada proves, the feds write the rules, and can change them seemingly at will.

43 posted on 07/20/2014 5:01:51 PM PDT by sarasmom
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