Very similar incidents in some ways — but the differences between the two are greater than the similarities.
An Italian I worked with unloaded on me over the US shooting an Italian Airliner down and I had to admit the media here pretty much let it slide other than a quick mention of the accusation. Did the US media go along with covering that up like the guy claims or is that and Italian conspiracy theory?
A Korean guy I worked with got all worked up and pissed at the US after KAL 007 went down because he said the US regularly flew intelligence aircraft above or below KAL flights on the same headings because of their routes and we hadn't cared much when Russia shot down a another KAL flight that went off course few years earlier. He had a friend who died in that incident. Did we do what he claimed or is that a Korean conspiracy theory?
I don't really know much about either incident and haven't bothered to dig into either other than finding the above links to what I think are the right incidents I recall because of someone I worked with being very interested in them. I don't know if the people who unloaded on me about them are right or not but they’re good examples of a fact people need to consider.
When the US and Euro media all have their panties in a wad over anything but what someone they identify right up front as a Republican, Conservative, or Christian, (especially the media as it's been orchestrated since His Majesty King Barry took the throne) there's a lot more to the story than meets the eye. The US and Euro media machines are past masters at making damn sure the public either doesn't hear about what they don't want heard and at burying something in plain sight by trivializing it as unimportant or not related.
The Separatists are responsible, period. All the trash about Russia and Putin being responsible is just more of the same from the same slick propaganda of the sort that portrays the Kiev Coup government as the good guys when they're nothing but a coalition of thugs no different than the thug they threw out.
Anyone who says, "if Putin didn't arm them, blah, blah, blah" better think again. The Ukraine Army either surrendered the unit that was used intact to the Separatists or abandoned it in working order rather than taking steps to disable if they didn't have the brains and discipline to blow it up outright before abandoning it.
Considering how easily they make fools of those who "don't trust the media", democrat media is more powerful than ever.
They don't even have to raise a sweat to hide things like when blogging was new and bloggers wanted to be good investigators instead of being known for their opinion pieces. Now false flags are everywhere known to attract conservatives and the Conservative take on things is as often as not nothing but trivial infighting. Just wait for any election, individual or incident the media want framed a specific way to hit the news then check out the user-names that are suddenly active when they've been dormant for a long time, even for years. Not all the people on the bandwagon, by any means, but an large enough percentage of them to be interesting have been dormant at least since the same sort of thing was last in the news.
Times they are a changin' and web forums are leading the way this time, not bloggers. Think for yourself. You may well be wrong and the bandwagon crowd may prove to be right, but at least you'll avoid being trained to drool when the media rings the dinner bell.
JMHO