MH17 and Moscow’s Magical Mystery Jets

The Interpreter Magazine ^ | July 22nd 2014 | Mark Galeotti

[Buffalo Head]

"I do not believe the separatists/rebels meant to shoot down a civilian airliner. I think they thought it was a cargo aircraft or, more likely, a surveillance aircraft, from Ukraine. So they shot it down. They are at war."

Yes, almost certainly. Stuff happens. See post Number 11. It took us 8 years to come almost clean on a remarkably similar incident.

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

Why it hasn’t been done yet is fueling the conspiracies, and raising questions.

What's fueling conspiracies are pathological liars working for the Russkies, like you.

[Buffalo Head]

P.S. Occam’s Razor almost certainly applies.

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

Another very important fact...IMHO, the major responsibility for this horrible disaster has to fall on Malaysian Airlines.

It was flying at 33,000 feet, making it unreachable to anything but the most advanced systems, which not just anybody can use. Furthermore, it was not the only airline using that airspace. If it was going to get shot down, it would have to be as a result of the actions of a state, like Russia.

Did the Russians put one of their systems in eastern Ukraine for the separatists/rebels to use? Very possible.

NATO already spotted these systems on both sides of the border, along with training going on, which they characterized as Russian officers training "separatists."

Furthermore, they were photographed entering into Ukraine.

Did the separatists/rebels capture a Ukrainian system and use it? Also possible.

That's what they claimed originally, before they went back and deleted their claims, that they had, in fact, captured such a system from the Ukrainians. The Ukrainians however say they are't missing any, and, number two, it is common practice for the Russkies to claim they captured something before sending it in. The only media source that originated the story that carried news of the "capture" was a single Russian news source, with no other sources independently reporting on it.

[McGruff]

I forgot about the July 17th computer glitch.

[tcrlaf]

“What’s fueling conspiracies are pathological liars working for the Russkies, like you.”

Yet ANOTHER ad hominem attack from you? How unsurprising....

Why don’t YOU tell the class why our Sat and Intel, as well as the ATC radar tapes haven’t been released.

[Grzegorz 246]

“Why don’t YOU tell the class why our Sat and Intel, as well as the ATC radar tapes haven’t been released.”

So are the one pushing forward this nonsense, so you tell us. Evil America covering up crimes of Kiev fascists perhaps ? What’s the current storyline ?