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U.S. may not have shared satellite intel with Israel identifying 60 tunnels
IMRA/Jerusalem Post ^ | July 22, 2014

Posted on 07/22/2014 12:18:52 PM PDT by SJackson

U.S. may not have shared satellite intel with Israel identifying 60 tunnels on the Israel-Gaza border

"Emerson said that he is unaware if Israel requested such intelligence from the Americans or if it has yet been shared between the two nations"

Exclusive: US intelligence source claims Hamas has many more tunnels than Israel says

By ARIEL BEN SOLOMON The Jerusalem Post LAST UPDATED: 07/22/2014 09:44

http://www.jpost.com/Operation-Protective-Edge/Exclusive-US-intelligence-source-claims-Hamas-has-many-more-tunnels-than-Israel-says-368364

Steven Emerson, founder and executive director of the Washington-based Investigative Project on Terrorism, told the Post in an exclusive interview on Sunday that US intelligence officials believe that Israel is underestimating the number of tunnels.

He said that according to a senior National Security Council official dealing with the Middle East, American satellites – equipped with special high resolution infrared detection technology – have preliminary findings of around 60 tunnels on the Israel-Gaza border.

This number could actually be higher though because it does not include overhead satellite coverage of ground structures that are several stories in height and are impervious to infrared detection, Emerson said.

This information seems to contradict Israeli estimates of remaining tunnels, Emerson said.

The IDF told the Post on Monday that up until now 45 tunnels have been discovered, but when asked how many it estimated remain, it said that no information was available.

Emerson said that the advanced American satellite, which was originally developed to deal with the Iranian theater, had been directed to orbit over Israel and send the data to specialized reconnaissance agencies operating under the aegis of the National Security Agency (NSA) for analysis.

The infrared heat-seeking technology works by detecting changes in terrain density and the preliminary findings show that the tunnels are 1.5 m. by 1.2 m. and at least 46 m. in length.

Emerson said that he is unaware if Israel requested such intelligence from the Americans or if it has yet been shared between the two nations – though he presumes that if it hadn’t it will be.

Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu said on Sunday that the threat of the tunnels is not a new one and Israel is aware of them. “It is an operation with more risk, but it is vital. If these tunnels were not found, then the results would have been a lot worse,” Netanyahu said of the ground operations in Gaza.

Emerson said that “according to American experts, there are only a couple of very specialized international corporations that manufacture tunnel-based equipment that detect unusual gaps in the density of hard rock being measured.”

The technology also has commercial uses and assists in determining areas suitable for tunnels and mines.

Emerson speculated that Israel did not purchase this equipment because of its high cost – and due to its belief that Israel can find and deal with the tunnels without it. He said that an ex-Israeli intelligence official who he spoke to came across as arrogant when speaking of the tunnel threat, and had a “we can deal with it,” attitude.

“It is believed that the construction of the more advanced Palestinian tunnels began right after the 2012 cease-fire agreement, when Israel agreed to lift restrictions for humanitarian aid, including large quantities of steel and concrete,” he said, adding that the agreement to lift the blockade was overseen by Hillary Clinton.

Egyptian tunnels are easier to build and are dug by using traditional excavation equipment and are meant mainly for commerce. These are easier to see, he said, adding that the ones crossing into Israel are for military purposes and “are of a totally different magnitude.”

Emerson said that Hamas has learned from Hezbollah how to improve its use of tunnels. He also said that Hamas terrorists are probably not using any communication devices while inside the tunnels, making it harder to detect them.

In addition, the tunnels are quite sophisticated, with water, sewage, and lighting allowing for month longs stays.

Regarding Israel’s efforts at using conventional forces, such as tanks and troop carriers, Emerson said that these are easier targets for Hamas since they can gather intelligence on them from close up.

Hamas has been very good at adapting and Israelis “need to think outside the box as they traditionally have and use their ability to think two steps ahead of their enemies,” Emerson said.

Herb Keinon contributed to this report.


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1 posted on 07/22/2014 12:18:52 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson

Nobody on the planet trust Barack Hussein Obama II !


2 posted on 07/22/2014 12:20:50 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: SJackson

FIE!!!


3 posted on 07/22/2014 12:21:23 PM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: SJackson

Yeah, halting immigrants is not high on their list.


4 posted on 07/22/2014 12:22:22 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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bttt


5 posted on 07/22/2014 12:23:05 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (In America, we don't do pin pricks. But sometimes we elect them.)
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To: TexasCajun

He’s “got their back” so he can stab them in it.


6 posted on 07/22/2014 12:23:28 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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7 posted on 07/22/2014 12:23:56 PM PDT by SJackson (government tampers with a freedom so fundamental, one shudders to think what lies ahead. Card Dolan)
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To: TexasCajun

Hussein has made it quite clear that he has no intention of helping any stable government in the Mid East.


8 posted on 07/22/2014 12:24:38 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: TexasCajun

If he’s backstabbing America, why would anyone be surprised if he stuck it to them?


9 posted on 07/22/2014 12:29:41 PM PDT by reefdiver (Be the Best you can be Whatever you Dream to be)
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To: SJackson

Why would Imam Barack Hussein Obama give Israel intel anyway? It’s against hos Islamic religion


10 posted on 07/22/2014 12:32:41 PM PDT by realcleanguy
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I thought it would be the opposite. As efficient as the Israel Military can be, I would expect they would have a great deal of data, and that much of it would not be shared with Obama or any of his Pompadoured Goons (Kerry).


11 posted on 07/22/2014 12:35:57 PM PDT by lee martell
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“I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” - Barack Obama

So tell me....
Why is ANYBODY surprised he won’t do anything to help Israel?


12 posted on 07/22/2014 12:42:02 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: SJackson
unaware if Israel requested such intelligence from the Americans or if it has yet been shared between the two nations – though he presumes that if it hadn’t it will be...

This is classified information. I'd imagine it has to be approved by President (Iranian-born) Jarrett and Hamas before it can be disseminated to Israel (with appropriate redactions and substitutions - especially substitutions).

13 posted on 07/22/2014 12:43:08 PM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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I’m sure the Israelis have the equipment developed to fly on their UAVs to detect tunnels as they fly over and scan Gaza’s borders.


14 posted on 07/22/2014 12:45:32 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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Now, am I surprised that BHO would not offer to share this info with the Israelis? —NO. It is possible that the Israeli were concerned that BHO has a good golf game and they didn’t want to pester him with a request for intelligence. Hey Israelis, if you know where the tunnels are (or at least most of them) use those bunker busters. I wonder if they are like anything such as the ones in Vietnam during our adventure there. At least in the movies, it looked like the Viet Cong were living in them —with radio communications and everything. Any Vietnam era guys who know something about this? —fill me in —I’d appreciate the info.


15 posted on 07/22/2014 12:50:38 PM PDT by brooklyn dave (Don't be part of the Sheeple. Learn your Constitutional rights.)
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To: SJackson

I hope Israel isn’t depending very much on the Kenyan muslim and his regime.
Proverbs 25:19 An unfaithful friend in time of trouble is like a broken tooth or a foot out of joint.

I think that pretty well describes the situation.


16 posted on 07/22/2014 12:55:23 PM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and in politic)
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bttt


17 posted on 07/22/2014 12:55:45 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (In America, we don't do pin pricks. But sometimes we elect them.)
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To: SJackson

Emerson speculated that Israel did not purchase this equipment because of its high cost – and due to its belief that Israel can find and deal with the tunnels without it


Yeah, Jack Bauer style! “I’m gonna need a hacksaw!”


18 posted on 07/22/2014 12:58:12 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: SJackson

First they’ll ban the children’s rockets, then they’ll ban their personal firearms!


19 posted on 07/22/2014 1:05:17 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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Obama is s black racist anti-semitic anti-Christian monster.


20 posted on 07/22/2014 1:28:27 PM PDT by ZULU (Go REDSKINS!!! Impeach Obama!!!)
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