[McGruff]

Update on today’s downing of 2 Ukrainian military jets: Rebels claim they hit them with shoulder-fired missiles. http://cnn.it/1rsqSXx

[Uncle Chip]

Rebels claim they hit them with shoulder-fired missiles.

So that's how the rebels honor a cease fire???

[brothers4thID]

Then someone is lying. Kiev says the jets were at 17,000 feet, that’s outside the engagement envelope for an SA-24 or an SA-16. And, as noted by previous posters, a single shot from a MANPAD would have to be very lucky to down a multi-engine military aircraft.