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Judge Uses Pizza to Defend Recent Pro-Obamacare Ruling
Townhall.com ^ | July 23, 2014 | Mike Shedlock

Posted on 07/23/2014 8:08:12 AM PDT by Kaslin

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit invalidated a major provision of Obamacare, ruling 2-1 that participants in health exchanges run by the federal government in 34 states are not eligible for tax subsidies.

No doubt, cheers went out from the anti-Obamacare crowd.

However, just a few hours later, the Richmond Appeals Court ruled 3-0 the opposite way, citing pizza in its explanation.

Conflicting Rulings

The New York Times reports Courts Issue Conflicting Rulings on Health Care Law.

Two federal appeals court panels issued conflicting rulings Tuesday on whether the government could subsidize health insurance premiums for people in three dozen states that use the federal insurance exchange. The decisions are the latest in a series of legal challenges to central components of President Obama’s health care law.

The United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit, in Richmond, upheld the subsidies, saying that a rule issued by the Internal Revenue Service was “a permissible exercise of the agency’s discretion.”

The ruling came within hours of a 2-to-1 ruling by a panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, which said that the government could not subsidize insurance for people in states that use the federal exchange.

That decision could potentially cut off financial assistance for more than 4.5 million people who were found eligible for subsidized insurance in the federal exchange, or marketplace.

Under the Affordable Care Act, the appeals court here said, subsidies are available only to people who obtained insurance through exchanges established by states.

The law “does not authorize the Internal Revenue Service to provide tax credits for insurance purchased on federal exchanges,” said the ruling, by a three-judge panel in Washington. The law, it said, “plainly makes subsidies available only on exchanges established by states.”

Under this ruling, many people could see their share of premiums increase sharply, making insurance unaffordable for them.

The case is one of many legal challenges to the Affordable Care Act in the last few years. The Supreme Court upheld the law in 2012, but said the expansion of Medicaid was an option for states, not a requirement, and about half the states have declined to expand eligibility.

How Much Would Premiums Rise?

Marketwatch reports Average Premium Hike is 76% in States Without Federal Subsidies.

A Study from Avalere Health shows that the average health-care premium increase for those who actually lose their subsidies would be 76%. The hike in premiums would be highest in Mississippi, where it would be roughly 94%, as well as Missouri, Georgia, Florida and Alaska.

The map shows just how much the increases are likely to be, and the decision could exempt many of the roughly 4.7 million people who received subsidies and enrolled via federal exchanges. Those who enrolled in states with their own exchanges are not subject to the ruling.

Thirty-six states currently use the federal exchange, but two of those — Idaho and New Mexico — are setting up their own marketplace. That means 16 states plus the District of Columbia will be operating their own exchanges in future years.


Health-Care Premium Rise



Pizza Party

Yahoo!Finance reports A Federal Judge Used Pizza To Explain Why A Key Provision Of Obamacare Is Legal.

Just hours after the Affordable Care Act was dealt a serious blow from a federal appeals court, a different appeals court gave the law a victory — thanks in part to an analogy based on pizza.

Senior Fourth Circuit Judge Andre Davis explained the debate in terms of a pizza order:

If I ask for pizza from Pizza Hut for lunch but clarify that I would be fine with a pizza from Domino’s, and I then specify that I want ham and pepperoni on my pizza from Pizza Hut, my friend who returns from Domino’s with a ham and pepperoni pizza has still complied with a literal construction of my lunch order.

That is this case: Congress specified that Exchanges should be established and run by the states, but the contingency provision permits federal officials to act in place of the state when it fails to establish an Exchange. The premium tax credit calculation subprovision later specifies certain conditions regarding state-run Exchanges, but that does not mean that a literal reading of that provision somehow precludes its applicability to substitute federally-run Exchanges or erases the contingency provision out of the statute.

Question of Intent

The issue is one of intent. Right, wrong, or indifferent, it's highly the Supreme Court will rule on the intent of Congress, not actual wording of ACA, nor whether the alleged intention makes much or any sense.

I suspect Obama will get a reprieve, but it is by no means certain. The outcome may depend on how other courts rule before the Supreme Court accepts the case.



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To: RightFighter
The correct argument is that it WAS their intent to exclude federal exchanges from the subsidies.

Either way. If there was a law with no specific intention, then there is no law, at all.

If they meant what the law says, then they should follow it As written.

Currently they are saying that the backup plan if the states didn't set up their own marketplace was for the federal government to set up a marketplace for them and thus would inherit the incentives provisions from the state plan.

21 posted on 07/23/2014 9:44:44 AM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: oldbrowser

The judge should just say that the written law means nothing and the actual way it should be interpreted is:

“everyone gets subsidized healthcare based on ‘from each according to his ability, to each according to his need’, at the discretion of president Obama, HHS, and the IRS”

because, de facto, that’s the way they’re running it.


22 posted on 07/23/2014 9:46:42 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Kaslin
If I order a hit by the Crips and an assassin from MS-13
carries it out ... who do I pay? The Crips or MS-13?
23 posted on 07/23/2014 10:08:09 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: Da Coyote

If I like anchovies on my pizza and you like Italian sausage on your pizza and you eat half of my pizza but I eat only one bite of your pizza, then that means that illegal aliens are allowed free entry into the states anytime they want.

How do you not see that?

/sarc


24 posted on 07/23/2014 11:34:45 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

Obamacare is like a pizza with crap for its topping

VA style healthcare for everyone, hurray!


25 posted on 07/23/2014 11:40:16 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (false claims of racism--the first refuge of a liberal scoundrel)
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To: MrB
‘from each according to his ability, to each according to his need’,,

We are now at the point where it is:

at the discretion of president Obama. Period

26 posted on 07/23/2014 11:45:11 AM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: oldbrowser

Notice I didn’t state the law as “at the discretion of the President”,

because, at some time in the future, maybe, there won’t be a democrat president, and they can’t leave the law interpreted that way then.


27 posted on 07/23/2014 12:16:44 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Kaslin

I liked what Krauthammer said last night. Everyone knows that the democrats intentionally made the bill to put pressure on the R governors to set up exchanges. They put incentives in the bill to force them to set up a state exchange. The incentive and they all know it, wrote it, read it and then voted for it, “Governors that hate their constituents enough to not set up an exchange do not get subsidies.” Plan, simple and diabolical and it back fired!!!


28 posted on 07/23/2014 2:03:43 PM PDT by thirst4truth (Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil - it has no point.)
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To: Kaslin

what contingency provision exactly?


29 posted on 07/23/2014 4:41:36 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: Kaslin

A more accurate analogy is this: I have a coupon for half off the price of a sausage and pepperoni pizza at Domino’s. When I take that coupon to Pizza Hut, I will still pay full price for the pizza.


30 posted on 07/24/2014 2:18:49 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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