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Rebels began barring news outlets from entering [Snizhne--the alleged location of the launch site] on Tuesday, as interest over the suggested missile launch site grew.
1 posted on 07/23/2014 8:59:56 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

OK, so what? Not our problem.


2 posted on 07/23/2014 9:01:31 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: 1rudeboy

Kerry Makes Yet Another Dangerous Rush to Judgment (Malaysian flight MH17)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3183835/posts


3 posted on 07/23/2014 9:02:11 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Well, we can gripe about it...but that is all we can and need to do. Maybe sanctions. But no military..EVER.


6 posted on 07/23/2014 9:04:00 AM PDT by Dallas59
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To: 1rudeboy

U. S. Officials aren’t going to do squat to Russia, they’re too afraid of putin.


7 posted on 07/23/2014 9:07:00 AM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Europe’s problem. The US has never had anything to do with Ukraine. /sarc


8 posted on 07/23/2014 9:10:11 AM PDT by dforest
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To: 1rudeboy

I recall that when this rebel movement began to make the headlines, that a rebel force had captured a Ukrainian airfield and captured a quantity of munitions and armament including weapons such as these SAMs. Of course, everything in that part of the world is Russian made, both sides of the conflict. So to say the SAM was Russian is correct, but not necessarily given to them during the present hostilities. IMO

Whhat say ye??


9 posted on 07/23/2014 9:10:46 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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>> Russian-backed Ukrainian separatists shot down a Malaysia Airlines jetliner last week

Was there ever any doubt?


17 posted on 07/23/2014 9:30:12 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: 1rudeboy
This sounds like double talk, especially in light of this other FR thread:

US: No Link to Russian Gov't in Plane Downing

So, which is it? Is there a link to Russia or not?
18 posted on 07/23/2014 9:43:34 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: 1rudeboy
The officials relied on photographs, social media, and voiceprint analysis of Ukrainian communications intercepts

Bush is going to lie us into war again!

30 posted on 07/23/2014 10:09:37 AM PDT by McGruff (If you tell a lie often enough the weak minded will accept it to be truth.)
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“U.S. intelligence officials presented reporters with their most detailed case yet Tuesday that Russian-backed Ukrainian separatists shot down ... “.

In other news, Glenn Beck, Sheriff Joe and Bill O’Reilly all plan to present new evidence on extraterrestrial aliens, if you will just tune in at 8:00 Central, 9:00 Eastern time/


64 posted on 07/23/2014 11:54:29 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: 1rudeboy

In a war, there is no case.

Sending lawyers rather than warriors will end badly again..... like it did in Bengazi


69 posted on 07/23/2014 12:25:14 PM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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Let’s not pretend we don’t know there are active duty Russian military personnel fighting and commanding inside Ukraine and even the rebels living in Ukraine are following orders from Moscow.

If you really think the Ukrainians are only fighting a few hundred drunks from Donetsk you really should be at DU not FR.

It is absurd to think a few drunk Russian rebels operated and have shot down multiple planes with that BUK or multiple BUK’s.


89 posted on 07/23/2014 1:51:08 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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The Dutch, who had the most men, women and children murdered by these Russian thugs - should, at a minimum, lead the charge for a boycott of the 2018 World Cup - if it remains in Russia.
106 posted on 07/23/2014 3:50:33 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: 1rudeboy

I honestly don’t think its fair to say Putin has control over the individual ‘rebel’ factions. He may support them in their general cause but if he had control he would probably uses it far more effectively.

I also don’t think the Washington has a lot of good evidence in the situation. Even if Putin provided the missile which would not at all be out of character given his support of Crimean Independence. He certainly didn’t order it fired at a civilian airliner.

If the missile was provided by Russia it was almost certainly provided to the rebels to help fight off Ukrainian air assaults. I however think its more than likely, given the rebels control of Crimea that they obtained the missile on their own from the Crimea’s(formerly Ukraine) own military supply. Which would be predominately Russian anyway.

Why bother going to Russia when there is a stock pile right next door all but abandoned by the Ukrainan military. Its like the various national guard armories here, your going to find all sorts of toys if you can get into them, and you will get into them when you take over the local & regional government.

What Crimea needs is a more established government of its own, able to take control of the region and its military. It needs this mostly because those missiles and the men who fired them are needed for Crimea’s defense.


141 posted on 07/24/2014 2:39:45 PM PDT by Monorprise
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