“tell us how you knew immediately that the Russians shot MH17 down?”
Because I knew, despite the denials of Kiev, and the likes of you, that the rebels had over-run the AA regiment in Donetsk, and likely had at least one of these. The question was, did it actually work, or not.
Kiev, of course, denied that it did. And the usual suspects called me names for mentioning it, of course.
And it had shot down the AN-26 a few days before.
It’s called PAYING ATTENTION to what is going on.
I also realize how stupid it is to fly a commercial airliner over an active war zone where planes are being shot down. IMO, from the time I first heard about it, I didn’t think it could be anything else.
The ATC tapes for the Airliner that went down in Africa have already been released. Why haven’t the ATC Tapes for MH17 been released, yet? Or do you not have the intellectual curiosity to ask such a question?
and they would have to have Russian training, assistance, and operators in order to use it.
Let me remind you that immediately after the shootdown, Kiev said that the Russian rebels shot it down.
Well look at that --
Isn't that the same thing you said???
You and Kiev saying the same thing early on.
And yet for 10 days you have fed us the Russian propaganda that Kiev statements were lies.
And you had the audacity to question the tweets and posts of Russian military gloating over the plane that they had just brought down in which they said exactly what you said.
And while Kiev gives the Dutch full access to the shootdown site and full unimpeded rights to investigate the site, your Russian thugs loot and lie their heads off doing everything they can to keep them from the site. Uhhh but Kiev is lying, right???
Moscow isn't, right???
If you love Moscow so much why don't you go back there.
There’s no proof that the Russian terrorists took the BUK from the Ukrainians. That’s just what the Russians said, and so tcrlaf repeated it here, just like he always repeats whatever the Russians say. Most likely, that was just a cover story to provide Putin plausible deniability when in fact he gave the terrorist insurgents the BUK, which has now been returned to Russia. If one believes whatever the lying Russians say, then they will go around repeating dirty Russky lies all the time.