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To: Cold Heat; Sacajaweau

No. WE killed him - and a foreign reporter I know - who was going to show who the ‘rebels’ REALLY were - o’bummer’s brothers.

Kadaffi and Mubarak were our allies - so they were taken out and That whole swath of Africa - which includes control of the Suez and the Sinai - were handed over to the muzzie brotherhood....part of the reestablishment of the Caliphate.

Had the Egyptian people not raised up and ousted o’bummer’s brothers, Israel would be near extinction today. Instead, Egypt has thwarted Hamas movements on Israel through the Sinai.

Hopefully, what’s going on in Libya now is similar to what the Egyptians did.


121 posted on 07/27/2014 11:51:30 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: maine-iac7
"No. WE killed him "

"Hopefully, what’s going on in Libya now is similar to what the Egyptians did.

No, we did not kill him, We just did not save him.

Similar to the Shaw of Iran situation we often have unintended consequences as a result of past actions but it's complicated and may have occurred earlier or later but occurred anyway, who knows? We had decades of history with Kadaffi as we did in Egypt .

As to the civil war, which is what it is, I don't know how it will work out. I do know that this animosity that has spawned from a thousand years of Muslim infighting was occurring long before the US was even a gleam in American history's eye.

It's therefore, not our fault at the root causal level and many believe that it's also not our responsibility as some believe it is. Our foreign policy for many decades was just to allow them to kill each other, and ally with the more friendly sides that often changed with the good or bad fortunes of one bad actor or another.

After 9/11, the seriousness and just who was who, became a more important issue. Nobody in the West gave a tinker damn about Caliphates or Shia /Sunni relationships or anything else until after 9/11. So our relationships as well as our concerns have now changed and that of course affect Israel, the only Democracy ( solid western ally) in the Middle East. Since Obozo got control of the State department as part of his domain, he has employed a different political position where he supports the revolutionary side of every conflict as if it were a freedom struggle from oppression. This is a Marxist view point and will certainly not improve the situation and may lead to a outright disaster in the Middle East, as you indicated in your post and I agree..

Not much to say about McCain. he is of the old guard politician cabal that plows into regional and local conflicts without much thought of the consequences. That mindset usually led to disaster 50% of the time and is akin to a crap shoot to see where the dice fall.

I am not expert on the Muslim tribal relationships to add much to the arguments, but when I do comment on it, it is usually because I viewed what we did as a policy what a mistake, and that we either supported the wrong side, intervened when we should have stayed out, or stayed out when we should have intervened.

But it's easy to be a Monday morning quarter back. As to

122 posted on 07/27/2014 2:12:05 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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