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U.S. citizens created Border Crises
The Plain Dealer ^ | July 27, 2014 | By Jeff Darcy

Posted on 07/27/2014 7:41:31 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The flood of Central American women and children crossing the border into the U.S. is not a refugee crisis, or a border crisis, it's an humanitarian crisis, created by the actions of U.S. citizens and inaction of their elected leaders.

While children have walked hundreds of miles, risking violence along the way as they try to escape it, Congress has hardly moved a foot on U.S. immigration reform and not at all on gun control.

How many of the politicians ranting about the children crossing the border have ever lifted a finger to restrict the free-low of U.S. guns being used about Central American drug gangs to terrorize the people now trying to escape into the U.S.?

How many of those trying to block the buses full of children being taken to shelters, smoked pot or snorted coke that had its origins in Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala, Columbia, Mexico or U.S. drug fields controlled and harvested by gangs from those countries?

The U.S. has a humanitarian crises on its southern border right now because for decades it has had a leadership crises in Washington D.C. when it comes to gun control and immigration reform.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it Uncle Sam.

(Excerpt) Read more at cleveland.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; border; editorial; illegalaliens
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1 posted on 07/27/2014 7:41:31 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
So who gave the kids the Obama sneakers? There is much more here dealing with our imposter in cheif and his handlers and their agenda.
2 posted on 07/27/2014 7:44:00 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Obama has smoked pot and snorted coke from those countries no doubt.
Put THAT in your pipe and smoke it,Jeff.


3 posted on 07/27/2014 7:44:46 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This guy spells about as good as he thinks.


4 posted on 07/27/2014 7:46:36 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Farmer Dean

That little commie Jeff also had to mention gun control.
I’ll look for you on the field,Jeff.


5 posted on 07/27/2014 7:47:14 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Farmer Dean

At least there are now media who are self-identifying as the mouthpieces willingly lying tot he American public in service to the regime. It will be easier to root these out, when the time comes.


6 posted on 07/27/2014 7:47:26 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

How come there are no violent Canadian drugs cartels or waves of Canadian children moving south? Why no gun problems on the northern border? These Central American states are failures.

CC


7 posted on 07/27/2014 7:49:36 AM PDT by Captain Compassion
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
“How many of the politicians ranting about the children crossing the border have ever lifted a finger to restrict the free-low of U.S. guns being used about Central American drug gangs to terrorize the people now trying to escape into the U.S.?”

The stupid punk who wrote this doesn't seem to realize that selling illegal guns to drug gangs is already against the law and that the Obama Administration illegally provided assault weapons to drug gangs. Does he even know that the Obama Administration is not enforcing the law and allowing gangs and drug sealers to operate in violation of the law? Does he know that the Obama Administration is preventing law enforcement from arresting lawbreakers?

The author should be fired immediately.

The newspaper should be boycotted.

8 posted on 07/27/2014 7:50:08 AM PDT by detective
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Stupid gone to seed.

I can’t believe he’s still perpetuating the myth that the cartels get their weapons from US gun stores.


9 posted on 07/27/2014 7:51:38 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: detective

The Plain Dealer is a shadow of it’s former self,it’s been in a death spiral for years now.


10 posted on 07/27/2014 7:52:38 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
While children have walked hundreds of miles...

I don't believe that at all. They were bussed to the border by somebody.
And how exactly will "immigration reform" and gun control solve all this?

11 posted on 07/27/2014 7:54:00 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I read:

If we could get rid of all the guns and grow our own pot, illegal aliens would stop coming to the US for the government benefits and hand-outs.


12 posted on 07/27/2014 7:54:46 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: dforest

This story ties in nicely with the, ‘refugee’, meme...


13 posted on 07/27/2014 7:58:38 AM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: Captain Compassion

White people.


14 posted on 07/27/2014 7:59:56 AM PDT by Post5203 (For the first time in my life, I despise this country.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
How many of those trying to block the buses full of children being taken to shelters, smoked pot or snorted coke that had its origins in Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala, Columbia, Mexico or U.S. drug fields controlled and harvested by gangs from those countries?

This all seems to make sense. The very people who support free drug use are the ones wanting an open border.

The conservatives who don't use drugs are also the people that want our borders to be kept secure.

15 posted on 07/27/2014 8:08:27 AM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: Delta Dawn

An invasion, planned and coordinated by the c urrent regime ruling America, and the in-need-of-execution media dutifully portray it as anything but an invasion planned and coordinated by the Obamaroid regime. ... And folks will someday ask, ‘What happened to the America I knew?’


16 posted on 07/27/2014 8:09:10 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: Captain Compassion

Good points all.

Speaking of guns in central america, last time I looked, I did not see many if any ARs in the hands of the antis and drug cartel people. I did see a bunch of cheap AKs though. Now, is one to assume they came from the US, except for those Barry sent them, or did they come from somewhere else? Final Jeopardy answer: elsewhere like Cuba, Venezuela, Chicom land or Ruskie land would be my response.


17 posted on 07/27/2014 8:10:11 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
If nothing else it shows a vast ignorance of economics. The drug lords probably have a “Yuri Orlov” knocking on their door every day and sending them a case of Scotch at Christmas.
18 posted on 07/27/2014 8:13:58 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (I lost my phased plasma rifle in a tragic hovercraft accident.)
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To: Captain Compassion

“These Central American states are failures.”

That’s his point. According to him they are failures because it’s our fault.

This is simply Communist Rehash from the sixties.

The bad Americans then were corporations like United Fruit and Dole. The argument was that they caused all of the problems because they were in bed with tinpot dictators whose regimes were “oppressing” the people.

So it became our fault because Americans ate Central American fruit.

Move it ahead fifty years and the business changes to drugs.

Now the argument is that Americans like drugs, therefore Americans support the narco gangs that have replaced the tinpot dictators. Therefore, it’s the Americans fault.

There truly is nothing new under the sun.


19 posted on 07/27/2014 8:20:14 AM PDT by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This idiot should stick to his stupid political cartoons!


20 posted on 07/27/2014 8:31:14 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Not the us citizens. We have almost no say in what happens in this country and it is the fault of the the media owned by the government.

It is impossible to get your voice heard. The elected do not listen and dismiss criticism while those who do express dissent are hounded by the journos who are owned

The status quo is the left. Any dissent is quashed by them. Expressing any opinion that deviates from the left or the right is a truly revolutionary act.


21 posted on 07/27/2014 8:39:06 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Jeff, if you google the distance from Honduras to Texas you will see that it’s 1,420 miles. Do you really believe any one much less children with no money are walking it? If you do then I can see why you believe the rest of your B.S.


22 posted on 07/27/2014 8:39:10 AM PDT by reefdiver (Be the Best you can be Whatever you Dream to be)
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To: Farmer Dean

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

Jeff Darcy of the The Plain Dealer needs to spend 45 seconds looking at the above link... maybe that would give him a clue...


23 posted on 07/27/2014 8:40:30 AM PDT by GOPJ (Liberal elites want Mexicans to be a servant class that supplies cheap drugs and easy women and kids)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
How many of the politicians ranting about the children crossing the border have ever lifted a finger to restrict the free-low of U.S. guns being used about Central American drug gangs to terrorize the people now trying to escape into the U.S.?

It was Eric Holder who was supplying those guns to the drug cartels... and NONE Of them had tracking devices on them.... Maybe 'Jeff' hasn't heard of Fast and Furious...

24 posted on 07/27/2014 8:42:18 AM PDT by GOPJ (Liberal elites want Mexicans to be a servant class that supplies cheap drugs and easy women and kids)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Jeff Darcy is apparently the dumbest man in the world. I believe were it not for spellcheck he’d have sent this incredibly dumb screed in using crayon.

It’s not US weapons being used. At least not privately sold one. We arm their military and their military arms the drug dealers. Their complete inability to govern stems from their obsession with socialism.


25 posted on 07/27/2014 8:49:13 AM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“I stopped reading after I saw the words, ‘Central American women and children.’” BS


26 posted on 07/27/2014 8:51:41 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (I don't want to feel "safe." I want to feel FREE!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I know how WE can”Solve”The”Border Crisis”!With The MILITIA!!!!!!!


27 posted on 07/27/2014 8:51:49 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
dear jeff “BITE ME” signed an American patriot.
28 posted on 07/27/2014 8:57:05 AM PDT by bravo whiskey (we shouldn't fear the government. the government should fear us.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

bump


29 posted on 07/27/2014 9:27:15 AM PDT by gattaca ("To everything there is a season, A time for every purpose under heaven." - Ecclesiastes 3:1 (NKJ))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

...and they blame America first...


30 posted on 07/27/2014 9:28:22 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (The next DNC convention will be spoken in Spanish; Press 1 for English)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

There is just no way to cure stupid. And the gene pool is polluted.


31 posted on 07/27/2014 9:32:38 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

By his logic its our fault for having a functioning economy, but then its always out fault. How the gun issue fits into this is unclear but I suspect he’s generally obsessed with the issue. Lets stop giving the illegals free health care, welfare, jobs and other services, stop offering dial 2 for spanish and see how long they stay.


32 posted on 07/27/2014 9:34:20 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
http://toprightnews.com/?p=4769

You guys shut down two sides of the Common.

Above link states 4,000.

33 posted on 07/27/2014 9:48:04 AM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Sorry, wrong post. : (
34 posted on 07/27/2014 9:51:15 AM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
This is illogical dribble..

Hes saying we the US are ..the fire under their frying pan..

So the only logical action only reasonable action only rational action is

to jump from the frying pan into the fire?

if life in bad in their country.

they have the whole world to go illegally to yet they choose here

If we are the cause of their problem.. why are they coming...here...

35 posted on 07/27/2014 9:54:48 AM PDT by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Yep! US cits elected Obama; thus they are blamable for all the ills since--Fast & Furious, Holder refusing to indict blacks, IRS, VA, Benghazi, ISIS, Christian bashing, losses in Iran& Afghanistan, Marine held in Mex, border crisis, lack of work, pulling back and apologizing globally, trashing the Constitution, over stepping his authority,--just to start the list.

vaudine

36 posted on 07/27/2014 10:36:14 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: MHGinTN

This article discusses the fact that the border “crisis” was actually planned:
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/383159/obama-caused-border-disaster-andrew-c-mccarthy


37 posted on 07/27/2014 10:56:16 AM PDT by KittyKares (.)
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To: KittyKares

And this ‘crisis’ is a planned invasion, albeit most of the invaders are not holding weapons other than diseases, until they get to their contacts in the US.


38 posted on 07/27/2014 10:59:00 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Another article by this idiot? What, you needed further proof that he’s a moron?


39 posted on 07/27/2014 11:20:41 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: MHGinTN

I heard someone interviewed on talk radio who said that there are a number of MS-13 gang youths amongst the “refugees.” The border patrol gives the illegals phones so they can call their parents and let them know they arrived safely, but these guys are recruiting and making other arrangements. The border patrol can’t do anything about it legally. What happened to the protection from terrorism that the NSA was supposed to provide by collecting all our phone calls and email messages?


40 posted on 07/27/2014 11:37:03 AM PDT by KittyKares (.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

We already have immigration laws on the books but our gov’t has chosen not to enforce them.


41 posted on 07/27/2014 12:41:55 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Jeff Darcy is a Dumbass!

I feel better now that I got that off my chest.

42 posted on 07/27/2014 12:47:37 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

In other news, Jeff also believes that rape victims had it coming to them.


43 posted on 07/27/2014 12:48:27 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: KittyKares

The NSA and IRS and CIA all work for the same boss, and that isn’t the American People. The NSA will collect the data from the calls and keep tabs on the CIA drug cartel workers so the IRS can strong-arm anyone getting out of line in the chain of command of the drug industry which provides so many hundreds of millions for black projects the CIA hires.


44 posted on 07/27/2014 2:08:55 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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AND, BTW, if the ring of thieves is exposed, the Holder thuggery will merely claim it was a sting operation and skate from criminality.


45 posted on 07/27/2014 2:09:57 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
...Congress has hardly moved a foot on U.S. immigration reform and not at all on gun control.

HMMMmmm...

Border invaders equated to...

the apple of immigrants...
and the orange of gun control.





You say something called Bluetooth predates my hearing device?

46 posted on 07/27/2014 3:01:08 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I couldn’t have said it better!


47 posted on 07/27/2014 3:33:56 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Choom gang, limo rides with Larry Sinclair and Fast & Furious...put that in your pipe and smoke it commie


48 posted on 07/27/2014 7:17:04 PM PDT by representativerepublic (...loose lips, sink ships)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This little man moron Jeff Darcy and his crap he spews in this fish wrap is one of the reasons I dumped this paper many years ago. I won’t even read it if I see it lying around free in a restaurant.


49 posted on 07/27/2014 7:34:23 PM PDT by oust the louse (The Democratic Party might as well be called the Death Party. Abortion & ObamaCare/death panels.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
If you check Jeff's bank account I'm betting you'll see a lot of trips to Denver and ATM withdrawls in the vicinity of pot shops.
50 posted on 07/27/2014 11:39:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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