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New England Facing Power Shortage This Winter?
IceAgeNow.info ^ | 26JUL2014 | Robert Felix

Posted on 07/27/2014 9:55:02 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine

“Get ready for the New England power shortage,” reads the headline in The Spectator. “Governors are already meeting in emergency session.”

“In a hell-bent campaign to rid itself of any form of dirty, messy “non-renewable” energy, New England has been closing down coal and oil plants for the last decade,” the article warns. “In 2000, 18 percent of New England’s electricity came from coal and 22 percent from oil. Today it’s 3 percent coal and 1 percent oil. Meanwhile, natural gas — the fuel that everybody loves until you have to drill for it — has risen from 15 percent to a starkly vulnerable 52 percent, just behind California.

“There’s only one problem. New England doesn’t have the pipelines to bring in the gas.”

Read entire article by William Tucker: http://spectator.org/articles/60007/get-ready-new-england-power-shortage

Thanks to Bill Gannon for this link

“If these predictions are correct or nearly correct, looks like the Northeast will have brownouts or possibly blackouts this winter,” says Bill. “My prediction comes from the fact that the EPA has reduced power generation in the Northeast by forcing older coal plants to shut down.

“The natural gas plants only store gas on site. Why? Because environmentalists won’t let pipelines be built. How about power from Canada’s hydro power dams? Those same pesky environmentalists, fight tooth and nail to keep transmission lines from spoiling the scenery.

Environmentalists….they call themselves green because they’re too yellow to admit they’re really reds.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: electricity; newengland; outages; power
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1 posted on 07/27/2014 9:55:02 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Spectator article mentioned.

http://spectator.org/articles/60007/get-ready-new-england-power-shortage


2 posted on 07/27/2014 9:55:34 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
natural gas — the fuel that everybody loves until you have to drill for it

Libs only like "natural gas" because it has the word "natural" in it. Yes. They're that dumb.

3 posted on 07/27/2014 9:57:47 AM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
2014-15 Winter Forecast



“For anybody wanting to take a peek at the Winter 2014/15 forecast by Matt Holliday of Firsthand Weather (wonderful meteorologist and AGW sceptic), here it is (on Facebook),” says Caroline in West Virginia.

His Facebook page.
4 posted on 07/27/2014 9:58:08 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Maybe they can get their illegals to cut wood for them or help breakup the furniture, or maybe they will reap what they have sowed and freeze in the dark.


5 posted on 07/27/2014 9:59:51 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Jack Hydrazine

They voted for it. Enjoy it.


6 posted on 07/27/2014 10:00:10 AM PDT by Flag_This (You can't spell "treason" without the "O".)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Sadly many people will suffer if there is indeed a power shortage this winter. Many of those will be people that never thought we should get rid of coal and as for the rest, the tree huggers and their kind, they never learn until it’s too late, after people have been harmed. Even then many don’t learn.


7 posted on 07/27/2014 10:01:07 AM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I hope that there are blackouts. People should have to feel the pain of their bad decisions.


8 posted on 07/27/2014 10:01:51 AM PDT by fhayek
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To: Jack Hydrazine

It’s not New England, it’s NeoEuropa


9 posted on 07/27/2014 10:02:17 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Guess they shouldn’t have voted for liberals.


10 posted on 07/27/2014 10:02:18 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Greenies can freeze in the dark.


11 posted on 07/27/2014 10:02:23 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: bert

For all those NeoEuro-peons!


12 posted on 07/27/2014 10:03:09 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I hope there is a cold snap that leaves much of the northeast shivering in their darkened homes about a week before the November elections. Maybe then they will realize that elections have consequences.


13 posted on 07/27/2014 10:03:12 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Oh well...that’s a shame.


14 posted on 07/27/2014 10:03:48 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Truth29

That’s what is happening in Germany because electrical power is so expensive there.


15 posted on 07/27/2014 10:03:57 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: The Great RJ

I hope it lasts the whole winter.


16 posted on 07/27/2014 10:05:15 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I think it might be humorous if (in order not to freeze to death) the NE enviros chop down their forests for firewood. What a quandary for those insipid fools. If they suffer...more the better.


17 posted on 07/27/2014 10:05:26 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

There’s PLENTY of power ... jus’ nobody got no money, tha’s all.


18 posted on 07/27/2014 10:06:25 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: The Great RJ

With a lot of them, I rather doubt it. They will do all kinds of mental gymnastics to blame anyone or anything else than the precious “wun” and the destroyer party.

Let them freeze and suffer.


19 posted on 07/27/2014 10:06:45 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.q)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

It’s time to bring back the bumper stickers: “Drive Faster/Freeze a Yankee” in it’s more modern and truthful form: “Drive Faster/Freeze a New England Liberal”.


20 posted on 07/27/2014 10:08:05 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Have a wonderful day!)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

What does, “Drive Faster/Freeze a Yankee,” in context mean?


21 posted on 07/27/2014 10:09:04 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

““If these predictions are correct or nearly correct, looks like the Northeast will have brownouts or possibly blackouts this winter,”

Good! Couldn’t happen to a more deserving bunch of Commies. No Heat, No Light, No Firearms, Lots of “Holder’s People,” Lots of Illegals. Hope they get it this winter in “spades.”


22 posted on 07/27/2014 10:09:31 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Truth29

Maybe they can get their illegals to cut wood for them...”

Apparently you forgot that, according to the greenies, trees were not meant to be cut down and wood burning stoves and fireplaces cause further pollution and contribute to global warming so they are not allowed any more.


23 posted on 07/27/2014 10:10:12 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: knarf

You obviously don’t know about the number of coal-generated power plants that are being shut down on a yearly basis due to EPA regs. Overall generating capacity is dropping.


24 posted on 07/27/2014 10:10:12 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: fhayek

Attention Blue state voters: Elections have consequences.


25 posted on 07/27/2014 10:11:07 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (It ain't a "hashtag"....it's a damn pound sign, number sign, or octothorpe. ###)
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To: vette6387

Unfortunately when it happens the rest of us will pay for it.


26 posted on 07/27/2014 10:11:37 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

So what? The only thing that matters is coughing up enough money to pay for the millions of illegals who want to live here, use our schools, and services.

How dare these people complain about coming power outages?


27 posted on 07/27/2014 10:13:20 AM PDT by GOPJ (Liberal elites want Mexicans to be a servant class that supplies cheap drugs and easy women and kids)
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To: The Great RJ

Since zer0 declared a war on coal and closed the plants electric bills have skyrocketed, to find out that he has shut so many down that there will be brown outs is almost laughable.
There are seniors on fixed incomes who will freeze so zer0 can claim clean air. Maybe he will come down with cancer


28 posted on 07/27/2014 10:14:01 AM PDT by reefdiver (Be the Best you can be Whatever you Dream to be)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Most of new england sourced its electricity and heat from coal and fuel oil.

Consequences are a real bitch. Get ready to freeze in the dark this winter.

I would be totally opposed to any natural gas pipelines being ran into new england. Might damage the environment, or something. Same with any new transmission lines. I hear those give you brain damage, or something.

Maybe they can burn all of the corpses of those liberals who bought into the lie, and froze to death for it.

You say I'm heartless, well all of the flaming liberals in the northeast told me I was, so I will just have to live up to it. Remember: consequences.

29 posted on 07/27/2014 10:16:58 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Truth29

Woodland Heists: Rising Energy Costs Drive Up Forest Thievery
http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/tree-theft-on-the-rise-in-germany-as-heating-costs-increase-a-878013.html

Wind Power Costs send Germans back to the Stone Age
http://stopthesethings.com/2014/04/22/wind-power-costs-send-germans-back-to-the-stone-age/

A ladder, wood theft, and sustainability
http://blogs.worldbank.org/energy/a-ladder-wood-theft-and-sustainability


30 posted on 07/27/2014 10:20:58 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Grams A

Put a catalytic converter on it. All good.


31 posted on 07/27/2014 10:21:46 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

They have obsessed so much against any “fossil” fuel that even in his last days in office Barney Frank was helping stop the building of a northeast port facility for the receipt of ships hauling LNG, which, all domestic fuel industry considerations aside, would make for a closer source for any northeast pipeline networks than a lot of domestic natural gas.


32 posted on 07/27/2014 10:23:34 AM PDT by Wuli
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33 posted on 07/27/2014 10:24:38 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: JennysCool
Yes. They're that dumb.

Natural gas comes from cows, too.

34 posted on 07/27/2014 10:24:54 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: factoryrat

> I would be totally opposed to any natural gas pipelines
> being ran into new england.

There was a new major pipline planned for New England.

All the upscale houses have signs basically saying, “No Pipeline”.

We have wood-fired heat and hot water, a propane-fired generator to run the water pump, and a couple Aladdin lamps, and live half a mile from the nearest neighbor. Brownouts and blackouts will be an inconvenience, but I think we can survive it. We lose power from snowstorms and such, so I don’t think this will be a lot different for us.


35 posted on 07/27/2014 10:25:33 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

The author, Robert Felix, wrote the book ‘ not by fire but by ice.’ It is an excellent book that looks at historical climate data to debunk global warming.

Surely the northeast can deal with a cold winter by building more solar and winmill power plants.


36 posted on 07/27/2014 10:27:17 AM PDT by quimby
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To: Grams A

The EPA’s wood stove/fireplace ban is here; wood-burning water heaters are also under attack in 7 states:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2014/01/29/epas-wood-burning-stove-ban-has-chilling-consequences-for-many-rural-people/


37 posted on 07/27/2014 10:28:32 AM PDT by carriage_hill ( Some days you're the windshield, and some days you're the bug.)
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To: JennysCool

Because of the political leanings of the Northeast, I am not seeing any sort of a problem here, just as long as they freeze in place and don’t attempt to move anywhere else.


38 posted on 07/27/2014 10:32:32 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

In the Carter years I had one on my truck that said “Let the bastards freeze in the dark”...


39 posted on 07/27/2014 10:33:38 AM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

listen to em squeal when there is no lectric to heat homes in New England in Jan and Feb due to closing coal plants.
Freeze obammy voters.


40 posted on 07/27/2014 10:43:49 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Yet another scaremonger "we are doomed" article.

To all those chortling about how New England is going to freeze this winter, think again. It's not going to happen.

41 posted on 07/27/2014 10:47:08 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: JennysCool
Half of them probably think it comes from having cows wear phartt trapping bags on their butts.
42 posted on 07/27/2014 10:47:40 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: vette6387

Lots of 0bamabots.


43 posted on 07/27/2014 10:49:39 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

If it didn’t happen last year with the horrendous winter, it sure isn’t going to happen this year.


44 posted on 07/27/2014 10:53:20 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Jack Hydrazine
And, New England has a funny rule about queuing for natural gas when a shortage is imminent. Priority one is natural gas for home heating causing electric power companies to scale back use of natural gas.

Companies that procure natural gas for heating pay for and receive firm, priority contracts with the pipelines for gas delivery, but this can limit deliveries to some power plants, which typically do not pay for firm service and purchase their fuel using a ‘just-in-time’ delivery system.

As if you can heat your house without electricity.

One thing New England has is a handful of big nuclear power stations: Seabrook, Pilgrim, Millstone-2 and Millstone-3 not to mention the handful across the line in New York. Too bad VY is being compelled to shutdown.

Also read summary of 2013 experience in New England.
45 posted on 07/27/2014 10:58:46 AM PDT by sefarkas (Why vote Democrat Lite?)
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To: SamAdams76

PJM was within 200MW from brownouts/blackouts on January 7. If more plants shut down in the eastern US there will have power supply problems.

http://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.cfm?id=3150

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3174977/posts?page=32#32


46 posted on 07/27/2014 10:58:49 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: SamAdams76

2000MWs not 200...


47 posted on 07/27/2014 10:59:26 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: Westbrook

“We have wood-fired heat and hot water, a propane-fired generator to run the water pump, “

I recall that this past winter there was a shortage of Propane in N.E. Did that affect you?

I heard that the price spiked similar to what happened in California/Enron a few years ago (10yr??)


48 posted on 07/27/2014 10:59:27 AM PDT by DanZ
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To: Joe Boucher
I'm in northern New England.

What about the idea of turning on everything electrical we have to help drive the place into blackouts?

I have generators and solar for backups.

49 posted on 07/27/2014 11:02:12 AM PDT by Mogger (Independence, better fuel economy and performance with American made synthetic oil.)
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To: Sacajaweau

The trouble is the grid is fast approaching a state of no reserve capacity.

http://www.transmissionhub.com/articles/2011/11/miso-warns-about-coal-unit-shutdowns-due-to-epa-regs.html

This is happening in all areas of the grid. Yet the average consumer is blissfully unaware of what is going on.


50 posted on 07/27/2014 11:02:45 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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