[Mariner]

Here's the key folks.

The world "torture" has to be removed, along with all detailed descriptions of actions a lay jury could define as torture.

I'm certain Obama and his team HATE the fact they have to do this.

But it's either that or subject 10,000 US Patriots...or more...to international War Crimes tribunals.

Waterboarding IS torture. We did it. We just can't call it that.

AND IT WAS NECESSARY AND APPROPRIATE.

[Foundahardheadedwoman]

I just wondered how many terrorists drowned as a result of waterboarding? How many people had heartattacks? What I wonder is when did scaring the crap out of someone become torture? I have also read that as part of Seal training they are routinely waterboarded and maybe all special forces are.

I view torture as something that leaves behind broken bones or knocked out teeth, or someone being subjected to electricity applied to their sensitive areas.