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UK Government Report Recommends Ending Online Anonymity
TechDirt ^ | July 30, 2014 | Mike Masnick

Posted on 08/02/2014 2:48:37 AM PDT by Objective Scrutator

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I'm not surprised that England (the land of socialized medicine, gun bans, CCTV cameras, de-facto Godless Anglicans, Muslim tolerance, terrorist George Galloway, Soetoro-lover David Cameron, and soccer) is considering this bill, to be honest. Well, if the English want to detonate their entire economy at the whims of the nanny staters, I won't complain.
1 posted on 08/02/2014 2:48:38 AM PDT by Objective Scrutator
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The report notes that the findings are "tentative" and that these recommendations might possibly "be an undesirably chilling step towards tyranny,"

Not a step towards tyranny, they are already there:

British politician arrested after speech quoting Churchill’s take on Islam

2 posted on 08/02/2014 3:05:22 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: bamahead

Life in the UK seems like such a privilege...


3 posted on 08/02/2014 3:07:36 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Objective Scrutator

Obama would love this. The IRS would find it that much easier to audit everyone on FR or elsewhere who told the truth about the pathetic petty tyrant in our White House. FedGov can find who we are when it’s actually needed, but this proposal would put that information in the hands of of a Lois Lerner government.


4 posted on 08/02/2014 3:35:07 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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Obama would love this. The IRS would find it that much easier to audit everyone on FR or elsewhere who told the truth about the pathetic petty tyrant in our White House. FedGov can find who we are when it’s actually needed, but this proposal would put that information in the hands of of a Lois Lerner government.

On-line donations have probably already taken care of the FR concerns - most can be traced back to their own computers and be identified via their ISPs anyway. There is almost zero true anonymity when on-line.

5 posted on 08/02/2014 3:48:15 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Objective Scrutator

I always thought that it would be okay to force everybody to use the same assumed anonymous identity for most things on the net. Like a Usagi_yo on FR would be the Same Usagi_yo on Huffington post (It’s not) with a blind link back to the users email address.

But then I realized, our government can do nothing right and in the end, everything gets corrupted and compromised. Why just this week it’s revealed that the CIA spied on and hacked into Members of the Senate’s accounts and such. Then we have the IRS problems. So now I think the opposite. Everyone on line should be hidden from the government and self policed by the public.

Don’t know exactly how to do that, but eh ...


6 posted on 08/02/2014 3:49:43 AM PDT by Usagi_yo (I don't have a soul, I'm a soul that has a body. -- Unknown)
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So, the IRS wouldn't have to go to the NSA to find out who to audit?

While history has disclosed the names of the writers of the Federalist Papers, they were generally written under a nom de plume.

The device lets the reader consider the thoughts written rather than the identity of the writer, and sometimes that better gets the point across.

7 posted on 08/02/2014 3:55:53 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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Thomas Paine published “Common Sense” unanimously because at the time the content was considered treasonous. When the formed head of the IRS considers TEA Party members to be terrorists, I think we’ve arrived at an equally perilous time in history; perhaps even more so. Paine was promoting secession from England. The TEA Party advocates for lower taxes. Somehow that is now considered a dronable offense by some in power.


8 posted on 08/02/2014 4:13:40 AM PDT by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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I think you meant “anonymously” instead of “unanimously”, but I agree, we live in perilous times when the government has already exacted its official vengeance against groups for disagreeing, and individuals are not far behind, if at all neglected in that regard.


9 posted on 08/02/2014 4:21:05 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Objective Scrutator

Except for purchases, anonymity is the only way I go online. I laugh at the social networkers who get in all kinds of trouble, puting it all out there with their name in the margins


10 posted on 08/02/2014 4:25:28 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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On-line donations have probably already taken care of the FR concerns - most can be traced back to their own computers and be identified via their ISPs anyway. There is almost zero true anonymity when on-line.

Agreed - true anonymity is hard. The question is whether it takes an FBI warrant, the NSA or equivalent to identify the originator of a post or a Lois Lerner clone can do it on her own. Even partial anonymity matters.

11 posted on 08/02/2014 4:28:34 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Objective Scrutator

It’s not like the UK has never had a tyrannical government before.
We send their Tyrant George III a little know Declaration objecting to his tyranny in 1776.


12 posted on 08/02/2014 4:28:52 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Unarmed people cannot defend themselves. America is no longer a Free Country.)
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To: trebb

That’s what I thought. Even if you’re sitting in Starbucks with a stolen laptop they could match the time of the cyber “crime” to the videos on surveillance cameras in the business and on the streets. If you have a cell phone in your pocket you’re toast.


13 posted on 08/02/2014 4:31:55 AM PDT by Wage Slave
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It’s not like the UK has never had a tyrannical government before.
We send their Tyrant George III a little know Declaration objecting to his tyranny in 1776.

But what of the Tyrant Barry? Our declaration needs to be re-addressed

14 posted on 08/02/2014 4:42:40 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Objective Scrutator
Anyone posting under his true name has got to be crazy!

Regards,

15 posted on 08/02/2014 6:14:19 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Objective Scrutator

Not all guns are banned.

And hey, some of us love soccer. LOL

Oh and Galloway is a Scot, sadly.


16 posted on 08/02/2014 7:29:54 AM PDT by the scotsman (UK)
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To: Gene Eric

It is. For all its faults, a great country to live in.

(I know that’s not in the way you meant it.....)


17 posted on 08/02/2014 7:31:11 AM PDT by the scotsman (UK)
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To: Objective Scrutator

A report from the House of Lords?
This idea wont go anywhere.


18 posted on 08/02/2014 7:32:25 AM PDT by the scotsman (UK)
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To: Objective Scrutator

The House of Lords is NOT ‘the government’.


19 posted on 08/02/2014 7:33:01 AM PDT by the scotsman (UK)
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http://gigaom.com/2014/07/29/scrap-anonymity-at-web-service-sign-up-uk-lords-advise/


20 posted on 08/02/2014 7:35:58 AM PDT by the scotsman (UK)
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