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How Secret Societies Stay Hidden On the Internet
The Atlantic ^ | JUL 27 2014 | Matt King

Posted on 08/02/2014 5:59:36 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Inside the surreal recruitment process of a legendary club—or something like it—at New York University

It all started with a Facebook message from a dead guy.

His name was Ernest Howard Crosby and his profile picture showed an old-time portrait of a man in a dapper vest sporting a bushy Civil War beard. The message came on behalf of New York University’s Eucleian Society, a literary club formed in 1832 around the same time that secret societies began sprouting up at university campuses across the country.

"The Society is interested in your potential membership and would like to invite you to learn more… Time is of the essence."

There was a link to a Facebook group that contained a long list of male undergraduates, mostly white (like me), a few Latinos and Indians, and one black guy. The list also contained the avatars of a few other dead guys, like Crosby, and the identity of the Group itself was similarly concealed beneath another guise: “Vote Arthur Watkins for Second Circuit Judge.”

The page, paired with the campaign-ready photo of an old guy holding an open book, appeared to be a 1930s-era political campaign. The comments field on the Group page was disabled, but a note in the Description section directed us to fill out a questionnaire (via Google Forms) that asked about our backgrounds, our political views, and our religious ideologies.

Before submitting to interrogation, I first searched online for any information I could uncover about the “Eucleian Society.” A Wikipedia page drew on sources from NYU’s Bobst Library and Digital Archives, as well as academic books that covered the broader topic of “secret societies in America.” The society was founded the same year instruction began at NYU, first operating out of the Main University Building, where it held oratory debates

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: internet

1 posted on 08/02/2014 5:59:36 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

interesting


2 posted on 08/02/2014 6:01:37 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: nickcarraway

ixnay on the ecretsay.


3 posted on 08/02/2014 6:03:06 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: nickcarraway

There is no fight club.


4 posted on 08/02/2014 6:07:00 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: nickcarraway

Un-American.


5 posted on 08/02/2014 6:08:06 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: cripplecreek

Oops, I was supposed to post this to the encrypted secret FR.


6 posted on 08/02/2014 6:09:35 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
And always use invisible ink.
7 posted on 08/02/2014 6:14:51 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: nickcarraway

It would be nice if FR had global https.


8 posted on 08/02/2014 6:17:22 PM PDT by Monty22002
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To: nickcarraway

What...like the Journo-list-as?


9 posted on 08/02/2014 6:19:07 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Illegals Are Getting Flat Screet TV's....NOT TB Screenings!)
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To: nickcarraway

Too bad this guy didn’t fork over the 600 bucks just to see how much of a scam it was or not. It would make a good story if it was a scam that was going on all across colleges for years and years.

I tried to join the order of Albino Assassin Monks, but I had too much melanin.

Freegards


10 posted on 08/02/2014 6:21:25 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Ransomed

My guess is, if he forked over the $600, there would be another level of gatherings, drink fests, fees until the pigeon eventually withdrew himself from the game.
As stated in the story’s comments, this could be fiction at the Atlantic or the author level. Good yarn, nonetheless.


11 posted on 08/02/2014 6:36:50 PM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: nickcarraway
Well the World ain't gonna run itself... somebody's gotta do it!

12 posted on 08/02/2014 6:40:26 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Chode

Who controls the British crown?
Who keeps the metric system down?
We do, we do


Who keeps Atlantis off the maps
?
Who keeps the Martians under wraps?
We do, we do


Who holds back the elctric car?
Who makes Steve Gutenberg a star?
We do, we do


Who robs gamefish of their site?
Who rigs every Oscar night?
We do, we do

13 posted on 08/02/2014 6:47:17 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: nickcarraway

Like every secret society I join, I’m only in it for the secret decoder ring. Once I get that, to heck with the robes and juju.


14 posted on 08/02/2014 6:53:23 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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To: ArtDodger

Yeah, if the amenities were on the same level. But imagine walking into the room after forking out like a dummy and it’s all top shelf. “Ah, the few who had faith, welcome to the inner workings—here is your % of the annual dividends the Eucleian Society’s investments have accumulated since 1832. You will be killed if you speak of this. Now let us speak of boobies.’

Like I said, good story material.

Freegards


15 posted on 08/02/2014 7:03:03 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Ransomed
"But imagine walking into the room after forking out like a dummy and it’s all top shelf. “Ah, the few who had faith, welcome to the inner workings—here is your % of the annual dividends the Eucleian Society’s investments have accumulated since 1832. You will be killed if you speak of this. Now let us speak of boobies"

Link please? ;-)

16 posted on 08/02/2014 7:13:46 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: Ransomed

I recall a made-for-tv movie called Seconds with Rock Hudson. He joins a group that will fake his death actually providing a body for the accident and give him a full make over and a new life for a fee but he misses his old life and keeps trying to go back. In the end, they have to liquidate him. His body is used to fake another’s death.


17 posted on 08/02/2014 7:17:31 PM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: cripplecreek

The first rule of Fight Club is nobody talks about Fight Club.


18 posted on 08/02/2014 7:20:52 PM PDT by BipolarBob (It wasn't me, it was my clone.)
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To: MV=PY

What’s the secret password?

Freegards


19 posted on 08/02/2014 7:27:51 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: ArtDodger

Cool. I was kinda thinking of Chesterton’s ‘The Man who Would be Thursday.’ But everyone involved in the society is actually a reporter of some sort, either to see if the society is legit or how far some suckers would actually go.

Freegards


20 posted on 08/02/2014 7:28:50 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: nickcarraway

FB has “closed” and “secret” groups


21 posted on 08/02/2014 7:44:23 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Ransomed

Chesterton’s “The Man Who Was Thursday.”
Kipling’s “The Man Who Would Be King.”


22 posted on 08/02/2014 7:51:26 PM PDT by Tax-chick (No power in the 'verse can stop me.)
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To: Tax-chick

I have yet to read that one, last Kipling I’ve gotten to was ‘Kim.’ I’ve seen the movie with Connery and Kane, dug that with the Mason thing. Gene Wolfe is a big fan of Kipling.

Freegards


23 posted on 08/02/2014 8:59:12 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Tax-chick

Hah, I see, I got the title wrong. I thought you were commenting on the mason secret society thing in ‘The Man who Would be King.’

Freegards


24 posted on 08/02/2014 9:02:30 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Drango

Fnord


25 posted on 08/02/2014 9:09:29 PM PDT by themidnightskulker
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To: nickcarraway

M4l


26 posted on 08/02/2014 10:27:33 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob
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To: GeronL; Slings and Arrows
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27 posted on 08/02/2014 10:39:46 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Elian Gonzalez sought asylum and was sent back to Cuba, send these kids back to THEIR parents.)
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To: Ransomed

“Kim” is one of my favorite novels. I read it at least once a year.


28 posted on 08/03/2014 2:14:57 AM PDT by Tax-chick (No power in the 'verse can stop me.)
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To: Mike Darancette

I would be curious as to what these are. Do tell? Maybe we might talk about taking back the country without getting spied on? How does one join such groups?


29 posted on 08/03/2014 3:43:42 AM PDT by Golden throne
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To: nickcarraway

You have to ask yourself, “Karass? Or, Granfalloon?”


30 posted on 08/03/2014 7:26:12 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Golden throne

For members groups like Mensa an others.


31 posted on 08/03/2014 8:27:04 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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