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To: kabar
I read it but Douthat never says what to do and wisely so. What to do was decided in 2012 and we lost again.

You can't lose over and over and over and not get consequences. These are the consequences of what we keep ignoring, political strategy! Why don't you see that? Everything this regime does is politically inspired and we seldom counter any of it.

Ignore the politics and we keep on losing.

I don't disagree with anything you have claimed. Legalize six million illegals would be a disaster. But, through executive action he can get away with it. We lost this battle in 2012 with Mitt not now! There is little we can do to stop it now.

The only thing that stops these commie-clowns is super low poll numbers that jeopardize the entire party. We need to strive for that. Leave the half black Manchurian alone or suffer the consequences of being race carded over and over and over. We can tear apart his administration at almost every level which as you say he's not running again.That's much smarter than going after him. their biggest nightmare is that his polls will sink so far he will become irrelevant and taek the party with him. we can help that along if we play smart.

Go for impeachment and "maybe" it passes the House but never the Senate. The rinos will sabotage us every time. I don't think we can self destruct fast enough or they have enough fraud money to stop us this time.

71 posted on 08/03/2014 7:36:01 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepI guess it does public:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: rodguy911

I understand your point, but saving the Party is like saving Nagasaki the day after the bomb dropped. There ain’t much left to save and going on offense may actually do more than continuing defense. How has that helped?

The only life in the Party are the Tea Partiers who the establishment would help the Dems get rid of. Fighting back will energize the Party and give it a reason for being.

Yes, it is harder than sitting around making phone calls. We have a saying here: You can lose gracefully or win ugly. Take your pick as to which is which.


77 posted on 08/03/2014 7:44:02 AM PDT by bray (Palin/Bibi 2016)
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To: rodguy911
I read it but Douthat never says what to do and wisely so. What to do was decided in 2012 and we lost again.

Douthat says:

This is the tone of the media coverage right now: The president may get the occasional rebuke for impeachment-baiting, but what the White House wants to do on immigration is assumed to be reasonable, legitimate, within normal political bounds.

It is not: It would be lawless, reckless, a leap into the antidemocratic dark.

And an American political class that lets this Rubicon be crossed without demurral will deserve to live with the consequences for the republic, in what remains of this presidency and in presidencies yet to come.

Demurral equals objection. The only constitutional way to object is thru impeachment. It should have been exercised after DACA.

You can't lose over and over and over and not get consequences. These are the consequences of what we keep ignoring, political strategy! Why don't you see that? Everything this regime does is politically inspired and we seldom counter any of it. Ignore the politics and we keep on losing.

We are losing because we are no longer the opposition party. Boehner has not used the power of the purse. He is not using the bully pulpit of the Speaker of the House. Boehner and the GOPe are more concerned about shutting down the Tea Party than going after Obama. He has not given the base any reason to want the Reps to be in control of the House or the Senate.

We lost this battle in 2012 with Mitt not now! There is little we can do to stop it now.

BS. The American people don't want amnesty. It is why the opposition doesn't like the "A" word. We need to use the template used by Dave Brat on immigration. We should listen to Jeff Sessions, Becoming the Party of Work How the GOP can help struggling Americans, and itself.

With 21 million Americans unemployed or underemployed, why should we want to give 6 million lawbreakers work permits to compete legally against Americans for jobs? The connection between immigration and unemployment needs to be made by the GOP.

The only thing that stops these commie-clowns is super low poll numbers that jeopardize the entire party. We need to strive for that. Leave the half black Manchurian alone or suffer the consequences of being race carded over and over and over. We can tear apart his administration at almost every level which as you say he's not running again.That's much smarter than going after him. their biggest nightmare is that his polls will sink so far he will become irrelevant and taek the party with him. we can help that along if we play smart.

But the damage is done. We can't give a free pass to an out of control, lawless President because we are worried about the political fallout. These lawmakers swore an oath to preserve and protect the Constitution.

Go for impeachment and "maybe" it passes the House but never the Senate. The rinos will sabotage us every time. I don't think we can self destruct fast enough or they have enough fraud money to stop us this time.

That didn't stop the Dems from trying to impeach Bush and it certainly didn't hurt them politically. The Reps can use the impeachment process to catalog the lawlessness of this President. It is a shot across the bow in defense of the Constitution. Someone needs to speak out now about the dire consequences of this Obama amnesty. They should start the public dialogue now about the damage done by such a contemplated action. The Dems are already spewing their propaganda essentially saying that the President has a right to do this because Congress has failed to pass comprehensive immigration reform.

99 posted on 08/03/2014 8:17:51 AM PDT by kabar
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