Skip to comments.Ukraine Rebels Conscript ‘Punishment Brigades’ for Support Work
Posted on 08/05/2014 1:17:36 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
DONETSK, Ukraine With Ukraines military tightening a cordon around this city controlled by separatist rebels, Oleg Grishin found himself enlisted on Monday in one of their schemes for its defense: the forced labor of drunks, drug addicts and curfew violators to dig trenches and build barriers.
Sweat streaked his face. Yet with a militant commander standing nearby, he had no complaints about the stooped toiling in the sun. What can I say, I was drunk, I was guilty, they are right, he mumbled.
Donetsk, the rebel capital, is now isolated by the siege, which the Ukrainian Army managed to achieve over the weekend.
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Ukraine has been using criminals as cannon-fodder for quite a while:
Ukrainian lawmaker admits half Azov battalion fighting in Donbass composed of criminals
Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_06_24/Ukrainian-lawmaker-admits-half-Azov-battalion-fighting-in-Donbass-composed-of-criminals-3274/
Thanks for the view from the Kremlin. What would FR do without you? Please never leave.
Stalin used penal battalions for clearing minefields with thier feet.
Putin: Listen to me. Listen to me carefully. I want you to correctly understand me.
If we reach that decision, only if we reach that decision, it will only be for the defense of Ukrainian citizens, let anyone from the military dare shoot at their own people which we will be behind, not in front but behind, let them try and shoot at women and children.
Let me see who in the Ukraine will give such an order.
The difference here is that, it appears that the Donetsk rebels are engaged in impressment, whereas the Ukrainian military is doing something entirely different. I’ll wait for a Russian to chance along and explain the difference, if they can.
It is amazing how with much of the civilized western world against what Putin invading Ukraine, that the Putinistas think they can win 1/1,000,000,000 of a point for Russia.
Perhaps tcrlaf can also explain this away:
British medical student kept as a slave by pro-Russian rebels in Ukraine is freed after two-week ordeal
“The difference here is that, it appears that the Donetsk rebels are engaged in impressment, whereas the Ukrainian military is doing something entirely different.”
The rebels are using drunks to dig ditches.
Lyashko is releasing criminals from prison to fight for his Nazi battalions.
There is a precedent for this.
Oskar Dirlewanger, the worst Nazi War Criminal of them all, did the exact same thing during WW2, and was very active in Ukraine, putting down partisans. It was Dirlewanger’s troops that brutally put down the Warsaw Uprising, as well.
The Soviets had a standing order that Dirlewanger’s men were to be shot on sight, preferably after torture, with no quarter given.
I wonder if Lyashko fancies himself as the modern-day Dirlewanger.
I didn't gather that information from the link that you provided. Did RT tweet it, perhaps?
There’s a FReeper around here who is fixated on “diversion.” Don’t care to look up who it is. Funny, I don’t recall you guys ever having a spat.
All you have there is a group photo that includes family at a ceremony. Meanwhile the terrorists have children in the street sitting at the ready.
I notice you style yourself the leader here, a sort of keeper and presenter of all Putin’s propaganda.
Tell me tcrlaf, what would you be without Putin invading Ukraine?
The rebel commander, known by his nickname, Lukich, said he treated the detainees humanely. The practice achieves two objectives, he said, imposing the social rules infused with Russian Orthodox Christian values of the new state, while helping the citys defenses. Drug addicts are summarily sentenced to trench digging.Jeepers, who do these guys think they are, Muslims?
Where are the Zyklon B facilities?
There are PLENTY of people here more than willing to post Kiev propaganda, straight from the tap.
I am trying to provide balance, to what I have found to be wild, over-the-top, and exaggerated claims by Kiev, and it’s propagandists.
For that I have been called names, cajoled, and even threatened.
Like it or not, it’s that very bashing that has made me dig deeper into what is really going on, much to the Kiev propagandists ire.
“Where are the Zyklon B facilities?”
They probably aren’t that far into the future, if things continue as they are:
On Aug 2, Lyashko, still a Rada PM, called for the death penalty for antiFascists and any accomplices by HANGING.
That's what you call anything that doesn't come from the slop bucket at Russia Today, the Voice of Russia, ITAR-TASS, or Tweets from the Kremlin.
“That’s what you call anything that doesn’t come from the slop bucket at Russia Today, the Voice of Russia, ITAR-TASS, or Tweets from the Kremlin.”
Of course, you can’t provide one, you are just being a hysterical hypocrite again.
I’m talking about Posts from Ukrinform, the official Kiev propaganda service, Censor.Net, Tymchuk’s Facebook, and others that we have seen since the first of the year.
Much like Putin, your intentions are good but just misunderstood?
Jeepers, who do these guys think they are, Muslims?
They think they are the Devil...
Ukraine rebel chief Igor Bezler threatens to execute interviewer
He grabbed the Dictaphone from her hands and ordered one of the fighters to throw it at the wall. Pulling my notebook from my hands, he began to rip out the pages frantically.
Protesting only made things worse. He barked commands at his subordinates: Burn their notebooks! Seize their electronics! Search everything for compromising material and then destroy it! If you find anything, execute them as spies!
Working in eastern Ukraine has been difficult for all journalists and anger and threats are commonplace. This was the first time, however, that I felt a very real sense of danger. Dont think for one minute I will hesitate to have you shot, he yelled at the pair of us.
“Much like Putin, your intentions are good but just misunderstood?
Yet another fallacious statement.
It says a lot about you, and your position, that you can only argue by trying to put words in another’s mouth.
They taught us not to do that in high school debate class. Have you not taken that, yet?
Paraphrasing your comment is "fallacious?" What does that indicate about the original?
He is in HS!
Didn’t they also teach you in debate class that you are either a player or a referee — you can’t be both at the some time.
He is in HS!"tcrlaf (Q) "
Here’s another Putinist slaver story from today:
They probably let him go because he’s Muslim. Professional courtesy.
So, the rebels aren’t the Sons of Liberty so many around here say they are? I’m shocked.
Every day the Nazi thugs in Kiev are being exposed and their handlers in DC and Brussels/Berlin cringe.