Posted on 8/5/2014, 8:17:36 PM by Berlin_Freeper
DONETSK, Ukraine — With Ukraine’s military tightening a cordon around this city controlled by separatist rebels, Oleg Grishin found himself enlisted on Monday in one of their schemes for its defense: the forced labor of drunks, drug addicts and curfew violators to dig trenches and build barriers.
Sweat streaked his face. Yet with a militant commander standing nearby, he had no complaints about the stooped toiling in the sun. “What can I say, I was drunk, I was guilty, they are right,” he mumbled.
Donetsk, the rebel capital, is now isolated by the siege, which the Ukrainian Army managed to achieve over the weekend.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
Ukraine has been using criminals as cannon-fodder for quite a while:
Ukrainian lawmaker admits half Azov battalion fighting in Donbass composed of criminals
Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_06_24/Ukrainian-lawmaker-admits-half-Azov-battalion-fighting-in-Donbass-composed-of-criminals-3274/
Thanks for the view from the Kremlin. What would FR do without you? Please never leave.
Stalin used penal battalions for clearing minefields with thier feet.
UKRAINE Lugansk: "Pro-Russia hide behind children
Report: Putin threatens to use Ukrainian women, children, as human shields
Putin: Listen to me. Listen to me carefully. I want you to correctly understand me.If we reach that decision, only if we reach that decision, it will only be for the defense of Ukrainian citizens, let anyone from the military dare shoot at their own people which we will be behind, not in front but behind, let them try and shoot at women and children.
Let me see who in the Ukraine will give such an order.
The difference here is that, it appears that the Donetsk rebels are engaged in impressment, whereas the Ukrainian military is doing something entirely different. I’ll wait for a Russian to chance along and explain the difference, if they can.
It is amazing how with much of the civilized western world against what Putin invading Ukraine, that the Putinistas think they can win 1/1,000,000,000 of a point for Russia.
Perhaps tcrlaf can also explain this away:
British medical student kept as a slave by pro-Russian rebels in Ukraine is freed after two-week ordeal
“The difference here is that, it appears that the Donetsk rebels are engaged in impressment, whereas the Ukrainian military is doing something entirely different.”
The rebels are using drunks to dig ditches.
Lyashko is releasing criminals from prison to fight for his Nazi battalions.
There is a precedent for this.
Oskar Dirlewanger, the worst Nazi War Criminal of them all, did the exact same thing during WW2, and was very active in Ukraine, putting down partisans. It was Dirlewanger’s troops that brutally put down the Warsaw Uprising, as well.
The Soviets had a standing order that Dirlewanger’s men were to be shot on sight, preferably after torture, with no quarter given.
I wonder if Lyashko fancies himself as the modern-day Dirlewanger.
I didn't gather that information from the link that you provided. Did RT tweet it, perhaps?
There’s a FReeper around here who is fixated on “diversion.” Don’t care to look up who it is. Funny, I don’t recall you guys ever having a spat.
All you have there is a group photo that includes family at a ceremony. Meanwhile the terrorists have children in the street sitting at the ready.
I notice you style yourself the leader here, a sort of keeper and presenter of all Putin’s propaganda.
Tell me tcrlaf, what would you be without Putin invading Ukraine?
The rebel commander, known by his nickname, Lukich, said he treated the detainees humanely. The practice achieves two objectives, he said, imposing the social rules infused with Russian Orthodox Christian values of the new state, while helping the city’s defenses. Drug addicts are summarily sentenced to trench digging.Jeepers, who do these guys think they are, Muslims?
Where are the Zyklon B facilities?
There are PLENTY of people here more than willing to post Kiev propaganda, straight from the tap.
I am trying to provide balance, to what I have found to be wild, over-the-top, and exaggerated claims by Kiev, and it’s propagandists.
For that I have been called names, cajoled, and even threatened.
Like it or not, it’s that very bashing that has made me dig deeper into what is really going on, much to the Kiev propagandists ire.
“Where are the Zyklon B facilities?”
They probably aren’t that far into the future, if things continue as they are:
On Aug 2, Lyashko, still a Rada PM, called for the death penalty for antiFascists and any accomplices by HANGING.
http://rusvesna.su/news/1407058971
http://politikus.ru/events/26144-lyashko-prizval-veshat-moskovskih-okkupantov-i-ih-posobnikov.html
Nothing.
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