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To: nickcarraway

The problem has been the focus on irrelevant arguments – some of which are actually unsupported by the evidence.

1. ‘George Zimmerman (GZ) racially profiled Trayvon Martin (TM)’ There is no evidence of this.

2. ‘GZ disobeyed an order by the police’ * The civilian dispatcher, Sean Noffke, testified that he did not give GZ an order and, in fact, he, like his fellow dispatchers, are trained not make comments that sound like commands. * Noffke also testified under cross that, as a result of his asking GZ which way TM was going, GZ could have reasonably interpreted this as being asked to follow Martin. * It is also not a crime in Florida to disregard a comment made by a civilian dispatcher.

3. ‘GZ got out of his car’ Not a crime on public property and not negligent either.

4. ‘GZ followed TM’ Again, anyone can follow anyone on a public street unless the followee has obtained a restraining order against the follower and even there, the RS only places time, place, and manner restrictions on the person enjoined.

5. ‘GZ wasn’t really injured’ * Under Florida’s self-defense laws, one doesn’t have to be injured AT ALL to use deadly force * No one is required to refrain from defending himself while another is engaged in or attempting to commit a felony.

6. ‘TM is dead through no fault of his own’ * If you believe that TM assaulted GZ, then he IS dead as a result of his own actions.

7. ‘GZ could have left’ * Under Florida law, there is not a duty to withdraw rather than use deadly force * TM was straddling GZ so how the latter was supposed to leave the scene is unanswered.

8. ‘GZ was armed and TM wasn’t’ * One’s fists can be considered weapons and can result in severe bodily harm or death. * GZ was legally carrying a weapon * There is no requirement under the law that the same weapon be used by the assailant * A homeowner can kill an intruder whether or not he has been threatened * Those that attack cannot feign surprise if they are met with superior firepower.

9. ‘Stand Your Ground!’ * SYG is NOT at issue in this trial. * The defense is a classic self-defense case.

10. ‘Black men NEVER get to use SYG!’ * Wrong http://tinyurl.com/nboht35

11. ‘GZ is a man and TM was a boy!’ * As if ‘boys’ don’t commit murder, rape, and assault everyday in this country.


2 posted on 08/06/2014 1:22:11 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
 ”GZ is a man and TM was a boy!’ * As if ‘boys’ don’t commit murder, rape, and assault everyday in this country.”

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Trayvon was 17 and a thug. IMHO, once you pick up a gun or a knife or beat up on someone, you're not a child anymore.

3 posted on 08/06/2014 1:28:55 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Your list is true, but there is also no proof that having skittles makes someone a cross between Al Capone and Rambo. fatnotlazy - do you have proof that he picked up a knife or a gun.


4 posted on 08/06/2014 1:32:01 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Actually, I spoke to George and he confirmed that he is a racist. He said if a white hispanic had been banging his head into concrete there is no way he would have shot him.

Do I really need the sarc tag?


5 posted on 08/06/2014 1:32:14 AM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What does that case have to do with this one? You going to reach and equivicate banging on the door with someone having his head banged into the ground?


9 posted on 08/06/2014 3:26:56 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“As if ‘boys’ don’t commit murder, rape, and assault everyday in this country.”

I live 2 hours north of the GZ TM incident. Last week here a 12 year old boy shot a homeless man in the head killing him...........12 years old.

Oh,and by the way, the 12 year old is black, victim was white.


25 posted on 08/06/2014 4:30:06 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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