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Israel offers Gaza truce extension but Hamas rejection reported
BBC ^ | 08/06/2014

Posted on 08/06/2014 2:30:05 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Israel has offered to extend a three-day ceasefire in Gaza which began on Tuesday after nearly a month of conflict, Israeli officials say.

However, unconfirmed reports on social media suggest the militant Hamas movement, which controls Gaza, has not agreed to the extension.

Egypt has been mediating in indirect Israeli-Palestinian talks.

More than 1,800 Palestinians, mostly civilians, and 67 Israelis, mainly soldiers, have died in the conflict.

A Thai national in Israel was also killed.

A senior Israeli official told the BBC Israel had expressed its readiness to extend the truce under its current terms beyond its expiry on Friday.

However, a member of the Palestinian delegation at the Cairo talks, Moussa Abu Marzouk, wrote on Twitter: "There is no agreement to extend the ceasefire."

In his first comments since the 72-hour truce began, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu blamed Hamas for all of the civilian casualties, saying it had used civilians as human shields.

The Palestinian delegation at the Cairo talks includes negotiators from Hamas, as well as members of Islamic Jihad and the Palestinian Authority.

The main Palestinian demands include the end of Israel's blockade of Gaza, in place since 2007, and the opening of border crossings. The Palestinians also want internationally funded reconstruction.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ceasefire; gaza; gazaceasefire; hamas; israel

1 posted on 08/06/2014 2:30:05 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Israel is trying hard to back off and leave enough Hamas left to have the problem all over again only worse in a couple of years or maybe a lot less this time. My bet is on a lot less.

Israeli politicians are rather like American politicians. They need emergencies to keep themselves relevant and the people voting for them so they don't end a problem. They end the immediate threat and leave enough so that the problem comes back. We provided the model in Iraq and Afghanistan, and even further back in Korea. Israeli politicians see what works when we do ìt and do likewise. Hamas is doing the world a favor when it refuses to let them break off the engagement.

2 posted on 08/06/2014 2:35:58 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: SeekAndFind

Israel has won this battle. The rockets have stopped falling and many of the assault tunnels have been destroyed. However there has been no fundamental strategic change. Nearly two million hostile Palestinians continue to live in adjacent Gaza. Hamas or a successor group aligned to the jihadists will govern. The jihadists will have no difficulty recruiting suicide terrorists. The missiles will become more sophisticated and stealthy. There may be a cease fire but there is no peace or prospect of peace.


3 posted on 08/06/2014 2:36:55 PM PDT by allendale
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To: SeekAndFind
More than 1,800 Palestinians, mostly civilians

Now I wonder just who it was that determined that aspect of the casualties, could it be those truthful boys from hamass?

4 posted on 08/06/2014 2:38:18 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Mastador1

How do they know that someone killed is a civilain or not?

Do Hamas fighters wear uniforms?


5 posted on 08/06/2014 2:39:46 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: SeekAndFind
How do they know that someone killed is a civilain or not? Do Hamas fighters wear uniforms?

All terrorists are civilians. And in this case, most of the civilians are terrorists.

6 posted on 08/06/2014 2:41:27 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I guess Hamas doesn’t need more time than that to rearm and reload (and get the kids in the way of retaliation).


7 posted on 08/06/2014 2:43:36 PM PDT by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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To: Mastador1

“Now I wonder just who it was that determined that aspect of the casualties”

The same people who reported the number of casualties. It can be total fantasy, but fits the agenda like a glove.


8 posted on 08/06/2014 2:43:41 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: allendale

No there wont be a prospect of peace.
The only way there will be “peace” is in the old Roman sense - “where they make a desert, they call it peace”
The only way this will be resolved is extermination or removal of one or the other.

These are two populations that fundamentally cannot coexist.

At best, the Israelis can live with it, as they have in fact been doing for 70 years or more. There is no reason this cant continue, essentially forever.

In my old country we have the same situation. Muslims and Christians have been warring intermittently for over 400 years. We have archaeological sites related to this war, beside modern military camps that exist for the sake of the same war.


9 posted on 08/06/2014 3:02:18 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: SeekAndFind; Mastador1

When dealing with the lieberals of the MSM civilian means good guy, but the correct translation in this case is enemy combatant.


10 posted on 08/06/2014 4:24:49 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SeekAndFind
The main Palestinian demands include the end of Israel's blockade of Gaza, in place since 2007, and the opening of border crossings. The Palestinians also want internationally funded reconstruction.

I've got the translation for this one too.

The main Palestinian demands include the end of Israel's blockade of Gaza the right to rearm and kill Jews, in place since 2007 around 600 AD, and the opening of border crossings [all the easier to invade Israel and kill Jews]. The Palestinians also want internationally funded reconstruction somebody else to pay for their war, enough money to live well in Paris, and more money for tunneling/arms/equipment.

11 posted on 08/06/2014 4:30:20 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
It's clear Hamas and the PLO have in mind to exterminate every Israeli man, woman and child. That implies they're just fine with the concept of the extermination of an entire group of people.

The simple solution is to let the group to be wiped out be Hamas, PLO and all their adherents.

HF

12 posted on 08/06/2014 4:51:35 PM PDT by holden
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To: SeekAndFind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LaSKALEpa8

The number of deaths is suspect, because we all know Palestinians lie and inflate those numbers and some of them can't even play dead properly.

13 posted on 08/06/2014 4:53:01 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: SeekAndFind

no, they do not wear uniforms


14 posted on 08/06/2014 4:53:45 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

RE: no, they do not wear uniforms

So, these ‘Civilians” killed may well be Hamas terrorists..


15 posted on 08/06/2014 5:19:10 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: SeekAndFind

While the Journalists are all pontificating over Gaza, thousands are being slaughtered in Iraq and tens of thousands in danger of being killed in the next few days. Refugees are flocking out of the Kurdish city of Erbil.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/384773/1500-iraqi-civilians-were-slaughtered-yesterday-isis-and-obama-administration-issued

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/11016794/40000-Iraqis-stranded-on-Sinjar-mountain-after-Islamic-State-death-threats.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2717935/Up-40-000-Iraqis-forced-choose-dying-thirst-slaughter-extremists-Refugees-stranded-mountain-surrounded-ISIS-waiting-kill-them.html

Obama’s busy raising funds and blaming Republicans, Kerry is busy being incoherently irrelevant, and our friends in Congress are busy campaigning.


16 posted on 08/06/2014 9:05:02 PM PDT by cookcounty (IRS = Internal Revenge Service.)
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