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Poland Retains Su-22s, Wants New Attack Helicopters
AIN online ^ | August 6, 2014 | FRANEK GRABOWSKI and CHRIS POCOCK

Posted on 08/07/2014 6:44:08 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

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1 posted on 08/07/2014 6:44:08 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

There was a time when the US would be there ready to provide everything the Poles required to defend themselves.


2 posted on 08/07/2014 6:48:03 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Use them for Top Gun training?


3 posted on 08/07/2014 6:54:35 AM PDT by McGruff (Seems like some are more interested in protecting Ukraine's border than ours)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

They have serious money problems but the Apache is on the table???
Yeah, sure it is...


4 posted on 08/07/2014 6:55:59 AM PDT by bill1952 (taxes don't hurt the rich, they keep YOU from becoming rich.)
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“Earlier this year, Poland decided to retain one squadron of aging Su-22 strike aircraft for up to 10 more years, since it cannot afford a replacement.”

It is much more related to a generation gap on the market. There's no sense to buy more F-16s at this point and F-35s are not going to be available for non-partner countries any time soon, so to keep 1 squadron in the air, it will use SU-22s for a few years more and then have them replaced together with MiG-29s.

5 posted on 08/07/2014 7:01:25 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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As we learned during the Battle of Britain, it isn’t the plane, it’s the pilot.


6 posted on 08/07/2014 7:02:38 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: skeeter

“There was a time when the US would be there ready to provide everything the Poles required to defend themselves.”

When... ?


7 posted on 08/07/2014 7:02:56 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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8 posted on 08/07/2014 7:07:46 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Grzegorz 246

1950 through 1973 the US spent a hundred thousand American lives and billions of dollars defending countries from Russian expansionism. Had you forgotten?


9 posted on 08/07/2014 7:09:02 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Who is Poland planning to attack with those helicopters?
10 posted on 08/07/2014 7:14:57 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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Isn’t it obvious that this is a highly provocative decision and Russia now has no choice but defend herself ?


11 posted on 08/07/2014 7:28:44 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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Seems to be the logic in use for the last hundred years.

Poor Poland, always neighbor to the Beast next door.

12 posted on 08/07/2014 7:58:38 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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Beasts

Germany already stabbed Poland and Ukraine in the back by building the Baltic gas pipeline under Chancellor Gazprom (Schroeder).

It's amazing to me that most Germans don't seem to see anything wrong with a former chancellor and foreign minister being on Gazprom's payroll.

13 posted on 08/07/2014 8:32:24 AM PDT by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Is that and updated version of the Fishbed??


14 posted on 08/07/2014 9:16:00 AM PDT by ontap
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Nope-it’s a different aircraft, a larger swing-wing strike aircraft.


15 posted on 08/07/2014 9:32:35 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: dfwgator
As we learned during the Battle of Britain, it isn’t the plane, it’s the pilot.

What? Weren't nothing wrong with the Hawker Hurricane!
16 posted on 08/07/2014 10:18:43 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXf1bhEEXd0

“Repeat, Please.”


17 posted on 08/07/2014 10:30:40 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: skeeter
Do they even teach History these days??

While the Poles have saved Europe on a number of occasions, neither the Europeans or US have returned the favor when the Poles were the ones in desperate straits although they have all gotten together and agreed to redraw the borders of Poland with stunning regularity.

18 posted on 08/07/2014 12:31:23 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin
Do they even teach History these days??

Maybe your comment was directed to me. If so, please point out to me the specific error in what I wrote.

19 posted on 08/07/2014 12:40:40 PM PDT by skeeter
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"There was a time when the US would be there ready to provide everything the Poles required to defend themselves."

There has never been a time in the history of Poland when Poland was not occupied by a foreign power or controlled by a foreign power that the US was ready to provide whatever they needed to defend themselves.

So, you know, all of what you wrote You posit a hypothetical that has no basis in historical fact other than your personal opinion with regard to or assessment of what what national policy and unnamed national policy makers would have done at some unspecified point in the past.

On the rare occasions the US helped a free and independent Poland (i.e. just prior to WWII and since the collapse of the Warsaw Pact) we have done so strictly to the extent we felt it was in our interest to do so as sauce for the bigger fish we were frying rather than in keeping with their own ideas of what they required to defend themselves and were willing to pay for.

Poland is and always has been far more willing to sacrifice on behalf of others than others have been to sacrifice on behalf of Poland and if you disagree, fine, feel free to spit in the wind of history.

have a nice day

20 posted on 08/07/2014 12:56:42 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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