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To: huldah1776
Being bi-polar is tortuous at times. Learn about it and have some empathy.

What do you want? Do you want people to commit suicide, or don't you? People commit suicide when their valuation of death tilts away from their valuation of life. If you see a man standing on a ledge, about to jump to his death, what do you tell him? Do you commisserate with him; tell him you understand perfectly what he's going through, and that he's powerless to act otherwise? Or do you attempt to tilt his values back toward life by pointing out that he has responsibilities both to himself and to the others who love and depend on him? Do you sympathize with his hopelessness and despair, or point out that in refraining from his intended act he clears the way for the possibility of brighter days to come; days he'll never experience if he makes the fatal leap? Do you appeal to his sense of responsibility; of manhood (if he's a man), or do you extol the virtues of cowardice and surrender?

Suicide nowadays is being treated exactly like unwed pregnancy. When the latter was stigmatized, we had very little of it; when empathy and understanding became the order of the day it became an epidemic. Ditto with drug abuse; with alcoholism; and almost any other vice you'd care to name. It's a sign of the sickness of our times.

393 posted on 08/11/2014 7:46:20 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
Suicide nowadays is being treated exactly like unwed pregnancy. When the latter was stigmatized, we had very little of it; when empathy and understanding became the order of the day it became an epidemic. Ditto with drug abuse; with alcoholism; and almost any other vice you'd care to name. It's a sign of the sickness of our times.

I think you have some good points, but I'm not sure I agree that it is applicable to suicide. From what I've read such as this chart of: U S suicide rates

The rate was as high, if not higher in the 1950's where we can probably assume stigma towards suicide was higher. I believe better understanding and LESS stigma towards the mental illnesses that frequently lead to suicide are our best chance to fight it.

I get what you're saying though. This is just an issue I've really been struggling with from all angles.
408 posted on 08/11/2014 8:10:08 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
WOW! A somewhat ironic quote.... Sad.
574 posted on 08/12/2014 4:23:49 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it. ~ Albert Einstein)
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