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To: Valpal1

Gee ya think? Patriot Act killed a Nation. After that passed the Feds gave MAJOR grants (in the ludicrous name of ‘fighting terrorism’) to States to help them militarize the police.

We are in BIG trouble. It may indeed be too late.


11 posted on 08/14/2014 12:20:47 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: RIghtwardHo; All

Well, would you rather that our local police departments have to face drug dealers or terrorists .. by using the standard handgun (38) .. while the bad guys are sporting AK-47’s and other assorted bad ass weaponry ..??

People need to stop only the militarized units like those connected with Cabinet posts. These are overkill and not necessary.

Also, there was a great series a few years ago called “Manhunters”. It was a counter-terrorism unit consisting of police from city, county, state and Fed. They were the most awesome people you would ever want to meet. They went after the hard-core felons who had either escaped from prison; had some court issues, or were on parole and not reporting. These are the “militarized” police you want on our side .. they are descent and concerned about protecting the people from thugs.

If the Obama admin manages to take our guns away .. this country is over and done. Their gun programs have nothing to do with protecting anybody .. they have to do with: CONTROLLING THE PEOPLE.

I sure hope American citizens are paying attention.


31 posted on 08/14/2014 1:26:28 PM PDT by CyberAnt (True the Vote: " MY AMERICA, ... I'm terrified it's slipping away.")
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To: RIghtwardHo

“Gee ya think? Patriot Act killed a Nation. After that passed the Feds gave MAJOR grants (in the ludicrous name of ‘fighting terrorism’) to States to help them militarize the police.
We are in BIG trouble. It may indeed be too late.”

It probably is already too late.
This started in GWBs first term plenty of Freepers cheered him on.
The WOT was the top priority never mind civil liberties everything had changed and we were all in immediate danger of being killed in an attack by militant Islam.

Never mind the fact that for that super vast majority they had a better chance of getting bit by a rattlesnake than ever being anywhere near a terrorist attack.

The left screamed about the loss of freedoms, the right said it was national security and anybody against it was a traitor.
It was going to be ok because GWB was our guy.

Then we got Obama now the left had their guy and would roll back the PA and all the other outrages they’d bleated about for almost 8 years.

Except Obama didn’t. In fact he doubled down with warrentless wiretaps and unmanned drones and further militarizing of local law enforcement.

The right screamed then about loss of freedoms and the left played the patriot card.

And most Americans, left, right, and center, acted exactly like scared little kids.
We divided into 2 groups and fought each other. Both sides were happy to eat another $hit sandwich as long as it was “Our Guy” who served it up.

But we don’t have a guy and the libs don’t either. The guys at the top, both parties, have much more in common with each other than they do with anybody not in the power structure.

Us at the bottom are just the mules they rode to the top of the hill.

I never bought into the argument that Islam was anything to be afraid of but the fear of that incited millions of Americans to voluntarily grant power to a group who would undoubtedly wield it against us. Our own government.


36 posted on 08/14/2014 1:59:43 PM PDT by snarkybob
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