Posted on 08/18/2014 4:45:30 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross
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Hopefully you never have to use those dreaded cops or have to call them as well as your family.
Are you friggin kidding me.
You stated that there is no radical liberaltarians on here this weekend.
Yet again you make an assumption, was you on here all weekend? No , but I did argue with three of them.\\
To some, I do. But you are trying to drill down to the micro and refuse to connect dots in the macro. If you think cops are not now armies controlled by liberal politicians and bureaucrats, then you are not paying attention.
If you think this militarization of police forces, along with government agencies, are not connected, you are not paying attention. If you think unionized cop shops are any friends of conservatives, you are not paying attention.
That’s the whole point. Policing is now far too often an arm of liberal big government. As an arm of big government power, they are enemies of a FREE REPUBLIC.
I mean does FR mean Free Republic still to you? Or does it mean just a certain strain of dogmatic opinions?
The one thing the progressive left & liberaltarians have in common is painting with a very wide brush, and totally ignoring history.
You know like portraying the “neighborhood cop” of yesteryear as something far better than the “gestapo” police of today.
You know the sweet “neighborhood cops” that would at dusk pick up the stray negroes traveling through town & knock them about before dropping them off outside the edge of town. The sweet “neighborhood cops” that (pre-Miranda) would beat a guy into a forced confession. The sweet “neighborhood cops” that would form a posse at the drop of a hat (when a scared person would blame a negro for a crime) and hunt down the first negroes they could find & lock them up. The sweet “neighborhood cops” that would always look the other way in domestic fights because a woman should obey her man. The sweet “neighborhood cops” that would brush off almost all rape cases because a woman was just asking for it or making it up.
You know those sweet “neighborhood cops”, those are what the esteemed cop haters would rather we have.
Horsehockey. I myself dislike the militarized police IMMENSELY because I don't like being "confronted" by "swarms of overpaid officers" everywhere I turn, and I don't like paying the exorbitant taxes demanded at gunpoint to equip the Pretend Sojers with military gear, to fuel their fantasies of being Special Forces "operators".
It depends on what you consider conservative. If someone has conservative ideas on a few social issues, but loves big government’s handouts and the raping of the taxpayer. That is not what the vast majority of conservatives consider conservative. They would see that as the big government hackarama.
In every paragraph you have made an assumption and that;s fine but to me you are wrong.
You don’t know if I have paid attention, you don’t know who I know who are cops, and go and tell Jim Robinson that cops are not friends of FR as he seems to have a different view and he is the sites owner.
It’s time to stop being useful idiots for the totalitarian Left by giving the benefit of the doubt to local law enforcement. The local PDs are being militarized, and increasingly federalized. The move of local LEOs to the Left parallels previous movements of the educational and government establishments (including Federal law enforcement) to the Left.
If you’re a conservative and can’t see this coming, you’re just deluding yourself.
Once again, you are trying to zero in on a micro factoid and totally not able to make a big picture assessment.
I didn’t see the radical libertarians on FR this weekend. Maybe some were there, but set those aside. Mark Steyn is not a radical libertarian. Neither am I. Neither are a lot of folks who have noticed the changing nature of LEOs.
But it’s all irrelevant .you haven’t laid a glove on anything I’ve said.
Meant to say well written article, too.
Cops today are part of a bureaucracy. Very few will fight it or go against it. Many have come to embrace it. They started with the unions and now the police unions are in league with management. The public is no longer invited to the negotiating table.
I have gotten to the point where I do not trust ANY gov’t functionary. Period.
Does your husband know you go crying to teacher to tattle?
Yea I can see those who have been using this incident for their personal agenda, sad really.
Times have changed, cops were being shot at last night, guess it was their fault.
SARC
I’m getting to the point where I can’t talk to liberaltarians pretending to be conservatives anymore
Waaay past its sell date. Most are strongly supportive of their unions which have and continue to hide and obfuscate the corruption that exists in every big city police department. The political correctness of the hiring practices also indicate the politics of the police are closer to teachers than any other group.
Good grief.
Thank you for reminding me
I would prefer to be allowed to protect my family and self, myself, if you know what I mean. The police are not there to protect you. They are there to investigate who killed you after the fact. They just draw the chalk line around the corpse.
You haven’t made a single point except by trying to totally distort the other side. You cannot lay a finger on the salient positions. You are doing what liberals always do, set up straw men to knock down.
It’s easy to knock down the straw man of radical libertarians. It’s easy to knock down the straw man of Al Sharpton and Eric Holder. Big deal. We all agree on that.
Maybe you should stay at the childrens’ table where the easy stuff is discussed, and leave the more complex and changing issues to the adults.
agree on that.
They are mostly reactive while you can be proactive
But now, with the NG having been called up, it has become a NO WIN situation, PERIOD.
I suggest you read history. All armed groups are loyal to those who pay them. This has been true since the days of Sulla. Our Founding Fathers understood this. That is why they were deathly afraid of standing armies.
But when you have the NG called who have REAL weapons, you are in a NO WIN situation.
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