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Was the cop injured during his altercation with Michael Brown?
Hot Air.com ^ | aUGUST 19, 2014 | ALLAHPUNDIT

Posted on 08/19/2014 5:11:37 PM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

The orbital bone around his eye was crushed.

That must hurt.


41 posted on 08/19/2014 6:08:47 PM PDT by left that other site
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To: capt. norm

credibilty? when did they have ANY credibility? WAY back...for those who werent paying attention.

“government execution”? Jacksons not even laughable anymore


42 posted on 08/19/2014 6:11:01 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: Kaslin

Like the prosecutor in the Zimmerman case saying that a slam or two of Zim’s head didn’t justify his reaction I shooting.

So, how many punches to the head does big thug get before the officer can defend himself?


43 posted on 08/19/2014 6:17:11 PM PDT by WildWeasel
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To: AppyPappy
He was shooting an unarmed gentle giant for no reason.

No, no, no.

He was shooting an unarmed gentle giant only because he was black.

44 posted on 08/19/2014 6:17:31 PM PDT by TChad (The Obamacare motto: Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.)
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To: capt. norm
How many more of these "false alarms" can Jesse Jackson and Al (me too) Sharpton dive into before their last molecule of credibility is gone?

Don't forget Jesse give a college scholarship to the Duke Lacrosse accuser before that thing went up in smoke. The race hustlers are gullible as well as greedy.

45 posted on 08/19/2014 6:17:54 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: Kaslin

Orbital socket damage most often requires surgical repair. Maybe they didn’t want a lynch mob descending on a hospital


46 posted on 08/19/2014 6:23:19 PM PDT by Figment
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To: A CA Guy

Why did the big guy run off then turn around and charge Wilson again?

Brain damage?
Drugged?
Saw other cops coming or what?
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The 18 year old’s decision to taunt “You aren’t going to shoot me” and/or charge are proof that his community members do not fear unprovoked shooting by police. If he thought it was “open season” on young black men, he wouldn’t have acted that way.
It seems to me that he was confident that the police would under respond for fear of a Treyon moment. I think he believed the police wouldn’t shoot him and would be no match for his 6’ 4” 300lb frame - I believe he was confident that he would be able to “win” a confrontation.


47 posted on 08/19/2014 6:27:40 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: Kaslin
Of course, no one at this point knows exactly what happened.

BUT

I can see the potential for BOTH sides to be right in this matter.

I believe Michael Brown did rob the store and assault the storekeeper (caught on video)

I also believe that Michael punched the cop, struggled over the gun when the cop tried to draw in within the car during the fight, that the gun went off and that Michael then ran (all of this is EASILY proven) injury to face or officer and gun shot hole in the car.

After that I believe that Michael ran.

Officer got out of the car the ordered him to stop, and possibly even fired a warning shot.

At this point I believe Michael started to charge the cop who then started firing at Michael. But all the initial shots hit Michael in the arm and he kept coming.

Seeing an enraged giant rushing him and apparently shrugging off the four previous shots, the officer went for the head shot. The first head shot finally stopped Michael and he went down.

HERE ! is where the other side MIGHT be right.

I think it is possible that at THIS point, the officer might have in a rage shot Michael ONE MORE TIME through the back of his head when he was lying dying.

Everything the officer did up to that LAST SHOT was justified in my opinion. BUT if he took ANOTHER shot (the one the coroner says entered through the top of the head and was the fatal shot) THEN the cop could be guilty of murder.

*** It is also possible that the cop hit the top of Michael's head as he was falling forward after the first head shot hit, and I am sure this is what he will say happened.

48 posted on 08/19/2014 6:29:55 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Kaslin
"Josie doesn’t claim that Brown busted Wilson’s eye, a detail you’d think she would want to mention to emphasize the severity of the attack. Also, if you look back at the cellphone video captured by Piaget Crenshaw, you’ll see Wilson standing by Brown’s body with no apparent injury and seemingly in no distress from what allegedly would have been a nasty eye injury."

The incident happened ten days ago. A report of injuries and physical condition are commonly immediately reported to the press.

Why haven't journalists published copies of the police report? Copies are routinely made available to the public.

Where are the copies of his call to dispatch after the incident?


49 posted on 08/19/2014 6:35:24 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: A CA Guy
Why did the big guy run off then turn around and charge Wilson again?

Pattern of behaviour... this is basically what he did in the convenience store after he had been challenged with the stolen property.... he turned around and walked toward the manager to intimidate him with his size.

50 posted on 08/19/2014 6:36:55 PM PDT by hecticskeptic (In life it is important to know what you believeÂ….and more importantly, why you believe it.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

get real the officer would have to have been on the ground to do what you suggest


51 posted on 08/19/2014 6:39:13 PM PDT by rolling_stone (1984)
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To: rolling_stone

why would the officer have to be on the ground to shot someone lying on the ground face down through the top of their head? That’s exactly where a head shot would land if you shot at someone’s head from a few feet away that was lying face down.


52 posted on 08/19/2014 6:44:10 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

Enraged and on drugs.

Judging by the garbage “music” he listened to, could also have been suicide by cop.


53 posted on 08/19/2014 6:44:22 PM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: TexasFreeper2009

the angle it was shot from was not overhead


54 posted on 08/19/2014 6:58:30 PM PDT by rolling_stone (1984)
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To: Figment

“Orbital socket damage most often requires surgical repair.”

Depending on the severity of the orbital blowout. Mrs. panax suffered a total blowout 20 years ago in a car accident. Five surgeries, complicated by Methicillan (sic) resistant staph infection (MRSA).

The surgeons had to harvest pieces from the top of her skull to rebuild the orbit and use thin strips of cartilage from her ears to line the inside part that the eyeball rides on. Not to mention all the screws, plates and rods to hold it all together.

She still suffers from double vision and cognitive problems from the brain injury. Needless to say, it has been a long road to recovery.

The officer and his family are in our prayers.


55 posted on 08/19/2014 7:04:33 PM PDT by panaxanax
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To: stars & stripes forever
Wouldn’t an injury like that impair his shooting ability?

Well; the shot diagram of a man "standing still and with his arms up" shows poor grouping.

Does that count?

56 posted on 08/19/2014 7:04:40 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: C210N

I shudda read ahead...


57 posted on 08/19/2014 7:05:16 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: rolling_stone
I haven't seen any evidence that shows the head shot to the top of the head that exited through his eye socket was not inflicted from overhead.

AGAIN

I am not saying this is what happened, I am saying I can see it as a possibility.

Here is what I believe:

Michael was on drugs, had just committed a strong armed robbery and was walking down the middle of the street with his loot, fought with and assaulted the cop in his car and wrestled with him over his gun, and then after initially running away, turned around and charged the cop forcing the cop to shoot to kill.

THAT is what I am pretty sure happened.

The only thing I am NOT sure about is that shot to the top of the head (which I assume to be the last shot) and I can almost see how with adrenaline rushing and after having shot 5 previous shots (4 of which appeared to do nothing to stop his advance) someone could in an adrenaline induced rage tap the monster in the head one last time and pronounce something to the effect of and STAY DOWN! Honestly, can almost see myself doing the same under similar circumstances.

I also don't believe this has ANYTHING to do with race. I am 100% certain that if this guy had been a white skin head of similar size and build covered with gang tattoos the result would have been the same.

58 posted on 08/19/2014 7:07:04 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Kaslin

“Also, if you look back at the cellphone video captured by Piaget Crenshaw, you’ll see Wilson standing by Brown’s body with no apparent injury and seemingly in no distress from what allegedly would have been a nasty eye injury.”

I saw that video on CNN and Crenshaw could not have known if that was Ofc. Wilson standing there or not from her vantage point. The early reports said he went to the hospital. Did he wait for several hours before going to the hospital? I wish the cops would just say what happened already! Did Wilson call for back-up? If so, don’t they have that transcript and his report of the situation? What evidence was gathered from his squad car? Brown’s fingerprints anywhere?

What thinking person would believe a white cop would just drive up, shoot a black guy dead in the middle of da hood???

This whole story is out of control. Just tell the truth!


59 posted on 08/19/2014 7:15:00 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: TexasFreeper2009
if that happened don't you think one of the witnesses would have said so? it is extremely dangerous to shoot a human or animal in the skull from close range ricochet is a strong possibility

http://www.nal.usda.gov/awic/newsletters/v11n3/11n3hany.htm

OPTION #2: (For deer and other large wild mammals) Shoot with a handgun, rifle or shotgun. If the approach can be made within 6 feet, the firearms of choice are handguns and small caliber rifles. Aim the handgun(.38 Special, .357 Mag, 9 mm, .40 caliber S&W or higher power) or small caliber rifle (.22 Mag or higher power) behind the ear toward the opposite eye so that the bullet passes through the brain. Or aim the handgun (.357 Mag, .40 caliber S&W or higher power) or small caliber rifle (.22 Mag or higher power) at the intersection of imaginary lines crossing from the ears to the eyes. The barrel of the gun should be inclined perpendicular to the skull front. Bullets fired at shallow angles may ricochet off the thick skull. When using less powerful handguns and rifles than those listed, the muzzle of the gun must be placed within 6 inches of the head at the exact location specified. If the animal has antlers or horns, use extreme caution. The long barrel of a rifle will allow you to place the muzzle closer to the animal's head while standing at a safer distance away. If the shooting must be done at a distance, the firearms of choice are shotguns and rifles. Shotguns (12, 16 and 20 gauges) loaded with “O” or “00" buckshot may be used when shooting 5 to 15 yards from the animal. Aim at the animal's head, lower neck (spine), or directly behind the shoulder blade (heart/lung) to fell and follow up with a head shot as previously described. Shotguns (12, 16 and 20 gauges) loaded with rifled slugs may be used when shooting 15 to 75 yards from the animal. Aim directly behind the shoulder blade (heart/lung) to fell and follow up with a head shot as previously described. Rifles (.223 caliber or higher power) may be used when shooting at distances from 25 to 200 yards. Aim directly behind the animal's shoulder blade (heart/lung) to fell and follow up with a head shot as previously described. Note: In the case of highly mobile animals, injuries are likely to be inconsequential, making these long shots unwarranted. Usually, long shots are only necessary when an obstacle prevents an officer from getting closer to an animal, such as a deer stuck in thin ice on a lake.

60 posted on 08/19/2014 7:16:50 PM PDT by rolling_stone (1984)
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