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Microsoft’s Windows 9 Unveil Said To Be Coming September 30
TechCrunch ^ | August 21, 2014 | Darrell Etherington

Posted on 08/21/2014 9:54:03 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom

Windows 9 has been leaked, and seems to show a backing away from the aggressively touch-focused Windows 8, with a mini start menu and dropping of the Charms bar, but we’ll get a better look September 30, according to the Verge. The blog reports Microsoft is planning an official unveiling of what’s next for its desktop OS for that date, with a technology preview available for early adopters following quickly after that.

The upcoming Windows 9 release is codenamed ‘Threshold,’ and expectations are that we’ll see it arrive for the general public as a stable release sometime early next year. Previously, we covered what might be happening with the new release, which suggests that the desktop might be getting a return to glory in the new version – think more Windows 7 in your Windows 8 experience. Expectations are that Modern Windows (aka Metro) will still exist in the next generation, but it’ll be more closely integrated with the desktop side, with apps running in windowed mode instead of requiring you to switch between the two environments.

As a fairly frequent Windows user, but mostly on a desktop gaming PC, I’m excited about the new (old) direction Microsoft’s OS is apparently headed in – let’s hope they don’t go in a different direction what they actually unveil in late September.


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1 posted on 08/21/2014 9:54:03 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom
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To: ConservingFreedom

Can we take another “better” mousetrap??


2 posted on 08/21/2014 9:55:56 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: ConservingFreedom
Will it have prettier crash and lockup warnings than ever before?


3 posted on 08/21/2014 9:58:08 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Security Updates to follow October 1st.........................


4 posted on 08/21/2014 9:58:19 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: ConservingFreedom
Oh boy, I think I'll camp out at my computer store and buy 12 copies so I can make a fortune scalping 'em.

Remember the "launch" of Windows '95?

5 posted on 08/21/2014 9:58:25 AM PDT by eCSMaster ("Your apathy is their power." - Sarah Palin Jul 19, 2014)
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To: ConservingFreedom; KC_Lion
The upcoming Windows 9 release is codenamed ‘Threshold,’

Does not bode well...


6 posted on 08/21/2014 9:58:32 AM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Ah, the Yugo of software steps up to the plate again.


7 posted on 08/21/2014 10:01:05 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: ConservingFreedom
From a "system speed" and efficient use of resources (CPU, Memory) perspective, Windows 8's performance blows Windows 7 away. I've done those benchmarks side by side on the same hardware. Windows 8 wins in every performance benchmark.

From an "ease of use" and "eye candy" perspective, Windows 7 wins hands-down.

I use Windows 8 (With Classic Shell installed to disable the Charms menu and put a Windows 7 Start menu back) because I like Window's 8's speed and efficiency.

I still prefer the Windows 7 UI though.

My wish: Put the Windows 7 UI back (including Aeroglass) on top of Windows 8, while keeping the speed and efficiency of the Windows 8 kernel.

That would be a killer OS IMO.

8 posted on 08/21/2014 10:01:07 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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9 posted on 08/21/2014 10:01:31 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: ConservingFreedom

This can only mean one thing : ALL WINDOWS 8 and 8.1 PRODUCTS ARE DEAD.

This includes the Surface Pro 3 Tablet/Laptop.


10 posted on 08/21/2014 10:02:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Please STOP Re-inventing the damn wheel.


11 posted on 08/21/2014 10:03:52 AM PDT by DeaconRed (We don't have News media anymore. They all are propagandist. Yes, even FOX.)
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To: ConservingFreedom
A friend of mine did some Beta testing on this.

He said it had a completely familiar look and feel, with all the controls just where they should be, absolutely rock solid, and virtually crash proof. He said we really have to give Microsoft credit because this time they actually listened and delivered exactly what the users wanted.

The only odd thing was when he peeled back the Windows 9 sticker on the box, it said Windows XP underneath?

12 posted on 08/21/2014 10:05:06 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: ConservingFreedom

13 posted on 08/21/2014 10:06:38 AM PDT by Dallas59
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To: SeekAndFind

“This can only mean one thing : ALL WINDOWS 8 and 8.1 PRODUCTS ARE DEAD. This includes the Surface Pro 3 Tablet/Laptop.”

Dang. I just built a 4770k system with windows 8.1. Now I have to throw it all away?


14 posted on 08/21/2014 10:07:06 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: I cannot think of a name

“...when he peeled back the Windows 9 sticker on the box, it said Windows XP underneath?”

...if there is a God this the case. A while back, someone posted here that MS could achieve hero status if the next release were “XP” with “2015” tacked on at the end. Just bring ‘er back and everyone wins.


15 posted on 08/21/2014 10:08:33 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: ConservingFreedom

I skipped 8 and see no reason why I’ll ever want to adopt 9.Windows XP served me well until a few years ago and 7 has been serving me well since.


16 posted on 08/21/2014 10:09:13 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party policy;Lie,deny,refuse to comply)
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To: Da Coyote
Ah, the Yugo of software steps up to the plate again.

You know absolutely nothing about cars. Making the comparison between Microsoft Windows to a Yugo couldn't be more incorrect.

Yugo's were the safest cars ever to be on the road. They had a near zero crash/fatality rate. They also got great gas mileage (hundreds of miles per gallon.)

You know why? Because Yugo's spent more time on the back of a tow truck than actually driving down the road.

Now, if you want to compare Microsoft Windows to a Car, anyone who knows cars (like I do ...) would tell you that Windows is like a 1970's era Ford Pinto.

That's right. A Ford Pinto. Pinto's blew up, Microsoft Windows "blows up." WTH do you think a BSOD is? The OS going KABOOM! Just like a Ford Pinto (when it was rear-ended of course.)

Memory Collision = BSOD. Rear End Collision = Blowing Up Ford Pinto.

Same thing.

Now back to CARS-101 for you! (/humor)

17 posted on 08/21/2014 10:09:31 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: TexasGator

RE: Dang. I just built a 4770k system with windows 8.1. Now I have to throw it all away?

Or the hardware you built CAN be used for Windows 9. But we’ll see what happens next month.


18 posted on 08/21/2014 10:12:19 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Windows 9 will be to Windows 8 what Windows 7 was to Windows Vista.

Not a GREAT OS, but it will be such an improvement over the pile of shit they last released, it will seem like the greatest thing ever to most people!!

In all reality, Windows XP Professional still has all of the functionality that most home and the majority of business users need. You could almost say the same with Server 2003 on the Server side, but Server 2008 had enough additions over 2003 to make it a worthwhile deployment. Virtualization changed everything. I generally prefer VMware’s products over Microsoft’s in the area of virtualization.

Microsoft is basically treading water. They haven’t made any real innovations in YEARS(if not over a decade), every new thing they try has failed, and they are basically just sitting there - just waiting to be replaced by someone/something else. I suppose the ONLY REAL fairly recent success they had was with the XBox 360 gaming consoles, but with the latest offerings, Sony’s PS4 is blowing away Microsoft’s XBox ONE. (I own both, and prefer the PS4 by FAR)


19 posted on 08/21/2014 10:13:54 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: TexasGator
Dang. I just built a 4770k system with windows 8.1. Now I have to throw it all away?

Yup, now throw it in my direction and I'll recycle that outdated, outmoded hardware for ya. ;-)

20 posted on 08/21/2014 10:14:18 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative
My wish: Put the Windows 7 UI back (including Aeroglass) on top of Windows 8
LOL ... you're just a customer - WTH would MS listen to you?
21 posted on 08/21/2014 10:14:50 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: ConservingFreedom
>The upcoming Windows 9 release is codenamed ‘Threshold"<<

They should shorten it to Trash.

22 posted on 08/21/2014 10:20:45 AM PDT by DTA
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To: KoRn
Windows 9 will be to Windows 8 what Windows 7 was to Windows Vista.

The only noticeable difference between Windows Vista and Windows 7 was the elimination of Windows Vista's constant consumption of memory / bad memory management.

It's been awhile, but IIRC they were virtually identical UI's. Windows 7 just "fixed" Vista's memory & performance issues.

For Windows 9 to be to Windows 8 what Vista was to Windows 7, that means the UI stays the same and the performance issues are "fixed."

Granted Windows 8's conflicting UI's (Metro vs. Desktop) sucks rocks, but the performance over Windows 7 is really quite good.

So I think your analogy is wrong. Windows 9 will be to Windows 8 what Windows XP was to Windows 3.11/Windows for Workgroups.

23 posted on 08/21/2014 10:21:34 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: oh8eleven
ROFL! Oh the horrors of those UI's!

You're right: I'm just a customer. Who just so happens to have decision making power on the desktop OS of a very large international bank.

If Microsoft doesn't listen to us, we don't upgrade our OS. They don't make millions of dollars off of us. It's that simple.

If enough of us (big corporations) do it, eventually Microsoft has to listen or die.

I'm a firm believer in pure market based capitalism and voting with one's dollars.

24 posted on 08/21/2014 10:24:16 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative
I'm trying to remember the last time I saw a BSOD.

It has been more than ten years ...

And yes, I'm using Windows (XP/Vista/7/8).

25 posted on 08/21/2014 10:25:00 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: ConservingFreedom

I want XP back.


26 posted on 08/21/2014 10:25:03 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: DTA
They should shorten it to Trash.

Haters gonna hate.

27 posted on 08/21/2014 10:25:16 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: NorthMountain
I'm trying to remember the last time I saw a BSOD. It has been more than ten years ...

I got one just the other day when one application clobbered another in memory on my Windows 8.1 pc.

Granted, it's a rather old app that I use as part of my amateur radio hobby so I don't blame that on Windows.

Since then I virtualized the app into a VM running Windows XP under VMWare. Since that application doesn't need internet access, I also disabled the NIC under VMWare for that Windows XP VM. problem solved.

28 posted on 08/21/2014 10:27:53 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

Your common sense approach to Microsoft products is not welcome on FR, FRiend. We are an MS-hating bunch here.

/sarc

Silliness aside, you are spot on with your assessment of Win8, but I disagree that Win7 was the “prettier” OS. I think Win8 wins across many measures for aesthetics.

Win7 had the “bubble” feel to it. Win8 has gone back to the “2D” look and feel where flat and edgy wins. Full disclosure, I work in Win8.1 and Server 2012 R2 all day, every day, so I may be biased but I’m also experienced.


29 posted on 08/21/2014 10:29:53 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
My memory of XP is already hazy ... but doesn't 7 boot faster?
30 posted on 08/21/2014 10:30:27 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Not enough to matter.


31 posted on 08/21/2014 10:34:06 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: GraceG

32 posted on 08/21/2014 10:34:19 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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I’ve had my imac less than a month and it already got stuck in “your computer had to restart due to a software issue” loop.... wouldn’t go into safe mode.

And a few other problems. My last computer was win 7 and stayed on for months at a time.

The only solutions I saw on any forums was to suggest that it was 3rd party hardware. Which there was none. But then again for other small problems, the only suggestion I’ve seen for anything is that it is 3rd party something. Never Apple. I hear the support is pretty good though.

Some things ios does in a slower and dumber way than windows though. Can’t drap and drop from memory cards to folders. pretty lame


33 posted on 08/21/2014 10:35:32 AM PDT by KneelBeforeZod (I have five dollars for each of you)
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To: usconservative

There’s always one ...


34 posted on 08/21/2014 10:36:51 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: KneelBeforeZod

Wow. I’ve used Imacs for nearly a decade and that has never happened. I update my software regularly. Sometimes a particular program left running will hang up an update, but that is not a big deal.

You may want to go to some iMac forum with your problem and I will be there is a quick fix to it.

When I was using Windows on a daily basis for my photography work it would need to be restarted a couple of times a day because even though the program would close a large image, the memory remained “captured.” I figured I was spending almost a full work week every year waiting for it to restart. This was never an issue with the Mac.


35 posted on 08/21/2014 10:38:43 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ebola: Death is a lagging indicator.)
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To: rarestia
Your common sense approach to Microsoft products is not welcome on FR, FRiend. We are an MS-hating bunch here. /sarc

I'm finding my conservative, common sense approach in general is increasingly unwelcome here on FR. Guess I've been around too long. Not many of us Class of '98 left on here...

Silliness aside, you are spot on with your assessment of Win8, but I disagree that Win7 was the “prettier” OS. I think Win8 wins across many measures for aesthetics.

Aesthetics are more personal preference in nature than "fact based." It's like art. Some people love Picasso, people like me can't stand it. (Since my office window looks out on Dirksen Federal Plaza in downtown Chicago --- the murder capaital of the world --- where a huge Picasso is housed, I speak from some experience here.)

Win7 had the “bubble” feel to it. Win8 has gone back to the “2D” look and feel where flat and edgy wins. Full disclosure, I work in Win8.1 and Server 2012 R2 all day, every day, so I may be biased but I’m also experienced.

Disclaimer: I have a slight vision impairment so I cannot speak to the "bubble" effect you see. I see a more "flat" and "opaque" or "transparent" effect in Windows 7. Windows 8's flat/pastel colored tile effects aren't visually appealing to me. I frankly never understood why Microsoft introduced two completely conflicting UI paradigms in Windows 8. Especially when one of those paradigms was completely contradictory to the concept of windowed applications (the Metro UI.)

36 posted on 08/21/2014 10:42:42 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

Really? I haven’t seen a BSOD since Windows 2000. There are teenagers going to college who have never seen and have no idea what BSOD even means.


37 posted on 08/21/2014 10:43:25 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: ConservingFreedom
That's awfully fast. Could be the widespread discontent with Win8 has percolated through over in Redmond. Somebody up-thread said it first, but it's true: the OS is great, the UI is awful. Win8.1 is a big improvement over Win8 in UI, an acknowledgement of a few inconvenient truths: people like working with multiple windows/apps simultaneously, people like a Start button, people don't like hovering a mouse cursor over a vague blank area on the screen and waiting for icons to magically appear. None of those are OS issues.

Don't start me on yet another redesign of the Office UI. I'm still digging users out from the "Let's do everything with ribbons!" switcheroo. And that was a long time ago now. I still have users stubbornly clinging to WordPerfect. It's how they work, it's how they're effective. It isn't really up to the vendors to tell them how they ought to be doing their business.

38 posted on 08/21/2014 10:47:33 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Kirkwood
Really? I haven’t seen a BSOD since Windows 2000.

Really, true. My experience aside from that example pretty much mirrors yours. Aside from a bad memory stick here or there or a really crappy driver (both of which will also cause a BSOD) I've not seen but maybe a handful or less of BSOD's in the last 10 years or so.

39 posted on 08/21/2014 10:48:43 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: ConservingFreedom

I went to Windows 7 after rebuilding my desktop and really like it. However, I have worked on friends laptops with Windows 8 and about lose my sanity. I always thought that Windows 8 will be another Windows Vista so it is no surprise that Microsoft is going back to a more Windows 7 platform.


40 posted on 08/21/2014 10:59:02 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: SWAMPSNIPER; ConservingFreedom
Not enough to matter.
Time matters ...http://www.networksteve.com/?p=921 (one man's test).
41 posted on 08/21/2014 10:59:54 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Gay State Conservative

the whole idea that anytime a new o/s version gets released you just have to get it, when the current o/s is working fine for most people, is ridiculous. it’s not necesary for most people to have to get the latest just b/c the latest, exists.


42 posted on 08/21/2014 11:02:48 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: usconservative

problem is most large businesses have contracts w/ msquish for licensing b/c of their special deployment setups, and in those contracts are requirements that they buy future o/s upgrades within a certin period after they are released.


43 posted on 08/21/2014 11:06:55 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: usconservative

Was just speaking in a general, overall/high level way. Wasn’t speaking of any specific UI or performance differences.


44 posted on 08/21/2014 11:10:08 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: ConservingFreedom

Windows 9, now with less 8.


45 posted on 08/21/2014 11:15:58 AM PDT by mykroar (This is an insult to the nation's intelligence and these days, that isn't easy.)
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To: KneelBeforeZod
I’ve had my imac less than a month and it already got stuck in “your computer had to restart due to a software issue” loop.... wouldn’t go into safe mode.

Fixing it is probably pretty easy, but it requires another Mac to do it. Use a lightning cable to connect the two together, boot the sick machine in target disk mode, and it mounts on the other machine as an external drive. You can do anything to it then,

46 posted on 08/21/2014 11:18:08 AM PDT by webheart (We are all pretty much living in a fiction.)
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To: Red Badger

LOL


47 posted on 08/21/2014 11:18:53 AM PDT by Fledermaus (Conservatives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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To: GraceG

Oh No.... This is an Evolution, if you will, of Microsoft.


48 posted on 08/21/2014 11:21:11 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: MayflowerMadam
MS could achieve hero status if the next release were “XP” with “2015” tacked on at the end. Just bring ‘er back and everyone wins.

Good point. XP was the best of the worst.

49 posted on 08/21/2014 11:36:23 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Secret Agent Man

Our whole society is built on the consumer discarding perfectly good “fill-in-the-blank” for the NEW and IMPROVED ! Why ,without that the economy would collapse.You expect companies to profit if people drive the same car for a decade,actually wear clothes from last year, or stay with the same “ significant other” ?


50 posted on 08/21/2014 11:44:54 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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