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Full Title: Kiev in U-turn over claim that 'Russian tanks, artillery and 1,200 fighters' had been deployed in Eastern Ukraine as evidence fails to materialize

Western Media has started calling out some of the claims Kiev has been making recently, because facts on the ground aren't supporting them.

1 posted on 08/21/2014 11:58:28 AM PDT by tcrlaf
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Or maybe there’s this thing called fog of war, where rumors abound and false information sometimes spreads. I’m sure it’s never happened in any prior conflict... /sarc


2 posted on 08/21/2014 12:00:45 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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“Ukraine has destroyed the majority of a Russian military convoy which crossed over its border on Thursday night, the country’s president said yesterday. {Aug 14th}

Petro Poroshenko claimed his forces had attacked the column of armoured personnel carriers and that most had been ‘eliminated’ – but warned Russian arms continue to flow in to rebel fighters.

The Ukrainian president revealed details when he spoke on the phone to David Cameron”

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2726010/Ukrainian-army-battle-Russian-armoured-column-crosses-border-claims-destroyed-Kremlin-forces.html


3 posted on 08/21/2014 12:12:10 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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The Russian defense Ministry denies that ATO forces captured Russian APC
https://twitter.com/BBC_ua/status/502531377364221952

No evidence, huh? Nothing like a BMD-2 captured from the Russian federation Pskov airborne brigade to spoil that fake narrative, along with the 2 tanks that went through Torez last night with their Russian Federation flags flying, not to mention the Russian Federation self-propelled howitzer,....


8 posted on 08/21/2014 12:27:01 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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“an earlier claim about an invasion by Vladimir Putin’s troops amounted to a crude propaganda move by the pro-Western Kiev government”

That’s the thing — they’ve still got this old Soviet mentality that their citizens are obligated to believe whatever clumsy propaganda the government spews. How is that in any way “pro-western”? It isn’t even pro-modern. Sounds like EU globalist fascism to me.


11 posted on 08/21/2014 12:40:44 PM PDT by RaveOn ("No amount of logic can shatter a faith consciously based on a lie." Lamar Keene, "True Believers")
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Whatever happened to this story?

Ukraine said it destroyed much of a column of Russian armored vehicles that had rolled over the border into territory held by pro-Moscow rebels, marking the most direct military clash between the ex-Soviet neighbors since the conflict began.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/ukraine-officials-start-inspection-of-russian-convoy-1408092018?mod=mktw


12 posted on 08/21/2014 12:44:05 PM PDT by McGruff (You can lead a human to knowledge but you can't make him think)
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There is an established pattern in Kiev propaganda.

First, there is a brazen lie, widely reported by the Western MSM.

Then there is a sheepish U-turn from Kiev junta.

Followed by the deafening silence of Western MSM.

The only exception is MH17, no U-turn yet, but there is a deafening silence of MSM since August 8.

20 posted on 08/21/2014 1:44:15 PM PDT by DTA
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The claim was also contradicted closer to home by Kiev's National Security and Defence Council spokesman Andriy Lysenko who dismissed it as "strange". "Intelligence is not confirming the existence of this column" he said.

Interesting.

Now imagine a Russian Defense Council spokesman contradicting Putin propaganda like Lysenko is contradicting false information from Kiev.

I can't.

And imagine the Russia "press"(lol) contradicting Putin propaganda like the Western press is contradiction the false information from Kiev.

And again, I can't.

And that there is the difference.

29 posted on 08/21/2014 7:55:05 PM PDT by FreeReign
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