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Donbas Insurgent Leader Confirms: Thousands of Russian Army Soldiers Fighting in Ukraine (video)
Ukraine Today ^ | Aug 28, 2014 | Ukraine Today

Posted on 08/28/2014 7:42:34 AM PDT by GeronL

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To: tcrlaf

The Russian Army must have been too close for the use of artillery, and close enough that they were in range of the Russian Army tanks.


61 posted on 08/28/2014 10:58:10 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: annalex

do not worry the non-Russians will be heavily punished and some of them sent to Siberia. The Russians already have captured pilots being sent off for “psychiatric care” like they used to do to political prisoners.

But these are just “rebels”... lol


62 posted on 08/28/2014 10:59:50 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL; All

Holiday weekend coming up in the US.

They know the US media, and much of Europe’s, will be MIA for the next four days. I’ll be gone myself, but I think there is going a LOT of action this weekend.


63 posted on 08/28/2014 11:06:18 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: GeronL

Right, but this is a new development. Prior to the “humanitarian convoy” spectacle the bulk of the insurgents were Ukrainian citizens that got weapons from Russia. There were some Russian citizens and Kremlin agents mixed in, of course, but only now can we speak of regular Russian troops under the official chain of command invading.


64 posted on 08/28/2014 11:09:33 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: Mentallo
I did read that GIs in Italy during WW2 used their .50 cal rounds as improvised mortars by shooting them upwards.

We still do it. It is called plundging fire.


65 posted on 08/28/2014 11:16:00 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: DCBryan1

plunging fire.....


66 posted on 08/28/2014 11:17:23 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: annalex

Putin noticed that the “rebels” were stuck in Luhansk and Donetsk and not gaining ground, that is why he sent in the real troops.


67 posted on 08/28/2014 11:20:35 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: tcrlaf

Boy howdy here we go.


68 posted on 08/28/2014 11:20:44 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: tcrlaf

The Russian putsch could happen this weekend and get almost no coverage. Very sad for their Ukrainian victims.


69 posted on 08/28/2014 11:23:10 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: tcrlaf

Viva Ukraine, Luxemboug is on their side! - okay, that is kind of funny


70 posted on 08/28/2014 11:24:29 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: annalex; dfwgator

UN Meeting on Ukraine Crisis

happening live here:

http://www.uatoday.tv/


71 posted on 08/28/2014 11:28:59 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL; All

Numerous Twitter reports saying that Rebels captured an INTACT TOCHKA-U (SS-21) launcher and rocket abandoned somewhere south of Donetsk from the retreating UK Army.
(Scarab-B NATO classification)

That is a biggy, folks....


72 posted on 08/28/2014 11:41:37 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

Russian Army troops captured...


73 posted on 08/28/2014 11:42:25 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: annalex

“That is the face of the new war. We saw it in Chechnya, Lebanon, Iraq, Libya and Syria and now we see it in Ukraine.”


Asymmetric war everywhere.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-01/top-financial-experts-say-world-war-3-coming-%E2%80%A6-unless-we-stop-it


74 posted on 08/28/2014 11:42:34 AM PDT by FBD
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To: GeronL

Right; but I also think Putin wanted them stuck: both for the excuse to invade and because they could become a model for liberation movement inside Russia.


75 posted on 08/28/2014 11:51:09 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

even countries like Argentina and Nigeria are calling Russia’s invasion a “dangerous escalation of the conflict”


76 posted on 08/28/2014 11:52:57 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: FBD

Good article.


77 posted on 08/28/2014 11:55:26 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: DCBryan1

It is good to see old lessons remembered. From what I recall reading or hearing in a lecture the GIs in WW2 improvised that on their own - they were working stiffs form the Depression era and they improvised with the tools at hand - same with how they modified Shermans to break out of the hedgerows when engineers could not figure it out. But I digress,


78 posted on 08/28/2014 12:20:22 PM PDT by Mentallo (Better dead than Mohammed)
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To: free_life
Guerrilla war in eastern Ukraine is next but this start of WWIII.

Guerilla warriors need a sympathetic population in which to operate. One of the worst assumptions here is that the whole of Ukraine is united and in favor of the govt in Kiev. At best the majority is indifferent.

We see the same false assumption (wishful thinking) when it comes to supporting rebels in Syria or Libya or wherever. We assume everyone in these fractured countries is of one mind or that all the rebels share the same ideologies and loyalties.

79 posted on 08/28/2014 12:20:23 PM PDT by Mentallo (Better dead than Mohammed)
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To: GeronL; All

Another biggy, from the Interpreter’s live blog:

Four Hundred Ukrainian Soldiers Desert Battlefield
17:21 (GMT)

An entire battalion has given up their heavy weaponry and left the ATO (anti-terrorist operation) zone after falling under attack from Russian Federation forces, Ukrainska Pravda reports, citing TSN.

Four hundred soldiers from the fifth battalion of the Transcarpathian Territorial Defense deserted from the battlefield and headed for home.

They were stopped near the town of Znamenka in Korovograd Region, and Commander Anatoly Pushnyakov, commander of Ukraine’s land forces and Nikolai Golomsha, deputy prosecutor general, personally came to meet them. They urged the soldiers to give up their weapons. The soldiers said they would only do this at their home base. In the end, they agreed to turn over the heavy weapons but took their rifles with them.

The soldiers said they had “been in hell” and fell under heavy artillery fire from Russian forces. They also said they were only going home for rotation and re-grouping, as they had been in the ATO zone for two months.”
http://www.interpretermag.com/ukraine-liveblog-day-192-novoazovsk-occupied-as-yatsenyuk-calls-for-emergency-unsc-meeting/#4002

Transcarpathia....
The Hungarians I was talking about earlier today.


80 posted on 08/28/2014 12:29:55 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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