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Should Union Organizing Be A Civil Right?
Forbes ^ | August 28, 2014 | George Leef

Posted on 08/28/2014 9:31:40 AM PDT by reaganaut1

[T]he NLRA sometimes comes in for criticism from leftists, who argue that it doesn’t do enough to tilt the playing field in favor of unions and collective bargaining. The common complaint is that although the NLRA does make it illegal for employers to discriminate against workers because of union advocacy, the legal processes under that statute are too slow and weak to deter employers from telling workers, “I don’t want to deal with a union and if I find you agitating for one, you’ll be fired.”

To remedy that purported defect in the law, Representatives Keith Ellison (D-MN) and John Lewis (D-GA) recently introduced a bill that would amend the Civil Rights Act of 1964 to allow anyone who charges that he was fired because of his union advocacy to sue under the Civil Rights Act.

Writing on The Hill, Richard Kahlenberg and Moshe Marvit explain, “Even if employees win a judgment from the National Labor Relations Board, they just receive back pay and reinstatement in their jobs….By contrast, our civil rights protections are relatively strong and include compensatory and punitive damages, as well as the right to engage in legal discovery and win attorneys’ fees, when one prevails in federal court.”

The Ellison/Lewis bill would write into law the ideas advanced in Kahlenberg and Marvit’s 2012 book Why Labor Organizing Should Be a Civil Right. One of their key arguments is that income inequality has increased in the U.S. because labor union membership has been waning for decades. (While that’s true for the private sector, public sector unions have steadily grown at the same time.)

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial
KEYWORDS: georgeleef; unions
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1 posted on 08/28/2014 9:31:40 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

Unions should be outlawed, not given rights.


2 posted on 08/28/2014 9:39:21 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: reaganaut1

Short answer: 1.) NO

Long answer: 2.) F^%* NO


3 posted on 08/28/2014 9:40:51 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: Beagle8U

They are free to form a “union” on their own time off the company property and the company has no duty to “recognize” their little club.


4 posted on 08/28/2014 9:41:09 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Beagle8U

And on the other side, anyone intimidated by the union for votes or dues has his civil rights violated.

That will end this folly real quick.


5 posted on 08/28/2014 9:42:39 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Manchuria Called. They want their Candidate Back!)
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To: reaganaut1

No but the specifically garaunteed right of free association, the ability to fire someone who unionizes against the interests of your company, should be reclaimed.


6 posted on 08/28/2014 9:47:56 AM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: EQAndyBuzz

It’s a dumb idea anyway, there is no civil right to a union, or a marriage for that matter.


7 posted on 08/28/2014 9:49:14 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: reaganaut1

This is superfluous pandering. Meeting for the purpose of forming a union is already constitutionally protected. The requirement of employers to recognize the union is not so protected as we are not yet a Marxist Society.


8 posted on 08/28/2014 9:52:16 AM PDT by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects)
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To: Beagle8U

Ellison is an admitted practicing Muslim.

We already know enough about the mind of the other one.

NO more gifts to unions.

They are dying & this is another death spasm.


9 posted on 08/28/2014 9:52:29 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: reaganaut1

Unions are nothing more than cash cows for Democrat elections.


10 posted on 08/28/2014 10:05:18 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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Should Union Organizing Be A Civil Right?

Sure, as long as it's done off company property and off company time. America is supposed to be a free country, and I should be able to talk to anyone about anything when I'm off the clock. Politics, unions, whatever.

So let's suppose "Joe" and I are the only two machinists at a factory. And off the clock we form a Machinists Union. As long as we do our job while on the clock, none of that should be the boss's concern.

And Joe and I should be able to bargain as a group. And the boss should be free to accept our offer, make a counteroffer, or tell us to get out of his office and go back to work. In the last case, Joe and I can either go back to work, or go on strike.

And then the boss should be free to bring in permanent replacements.

Now having said all that, you can bet that if union organizing is made a civil right, the law will be twisted and abused all out of shape.

11 posted on 08/28/2014 10:08:30 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: reaganaut1

Confirmation that the country is gone totally wacko


12 posted on 08/28/2014 10:09:55 AM PDT by beachn4fun (Guns are not the problem. People are. Forget the magazine...check your attitude.)
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To: Beagle8U
Unions should be outlawed, not given rights.

Indeed!

13 posted on 08/28/2014 10:09:58 AM PDT by rdb3 (Get out the putter, this one's on the green.)
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To: reaganaut1
And please let me add one more thing to my rambling post #11.

As part of the whole freedom idea, all union membership everywhere should be voluntary. No one should have to join a union.

14 posted on 08/28/2014 10:11:08 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Beagle8U
Unions should be outlawed, not given rights.

Correct. Labor unions are a Marxist invention and have no place here.

15 posted on 08/28/2014 10:16:58 AM PDT by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: reaganaut1

Unions are bankrupting companies and municipalities - they should rescind all the defined benefit pensions and extended healthcare paid by taxpayers to all these early retirees - the math doesn’t work.


16 posted on 08/28/2014 10:21:22 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: reaganaut1

NOT being forced to be in a union should be a civil right.


17 posted on 08/28/2014 10:39:26 AM PDT by walford (https://www.facebook.com/wralford (feel free to friend me))
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To: reaganaut1

Life, Liberty, the pursuit of happiness, and the right to unionize.
Hmm...
1 of these things, is not like the others....


18 posted on 08/28/2014 10:42:40 AM PDT by vpintheak (I will not comply!)
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To: reaganaut1

Rights cannot be granted to one party without being granted to others in the relationship. Let us have the public debate on the rights of employers to hire and fire at will. I won’t start a business in a state that impedes my ability to run it and to have what workers I please and to fire as I please, not that I find that pleasant.


19 posted on 08/28/2014 11:28:36 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: reaganaut1; GeronL

Organizing a union is a civil right. Ignoring a union is a civil right. That is the basis for negotiation.


20 posted on 08/28/2014 11:42:41 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Only a specific GOP Program, Plan, and Leadership will end the chaos of dysfunctional government.)
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