Did you know that John Kerry was in Viet... oops, I mean Mike Brown was unarmed ?
To save my life or the life of another...
Or if he is wearing a striped tie with a striped shirt. ..
The ultimate crime is a striped tie with a checkered shirt..just had to be done...
Answer:
When I feel my life may be in danger.
When that person is in my home.
When I feel my wife or children are in danger of bodily harm.
When I can’t see his/her hands and think the person is armed...
It is always good to read Andrew Branca.
disparity of force actually covers all the examples they subcategorized underneath it. disparity of numbers is disparity of force. disparity of size is disparity of force. disparity of all the things they noted are disparity of force.
disparity of force also covers ambush/surprise attack.
In uber lib Ca we can defend ourselves, others, our property and dare I say it- put down riots through the use of deadly force.
http://law.onecle.com/california/penal/197.html
197. Homicide is also justifiable when committed by any person in
any of the following cases:
1. When resisting any attempt to murder any person, or to commit a
felony, or to do some great bodily injury upon any person; or,
2. When committed in defense of habitation, property, or person,
against one who manifestly intends or endeavors, by violence or
surprise, to commit a felony, or against one who manifestly intends
and endeavors, in a violent, riotous or tumultuous manner, to enter
the habitation of another for the purpose of offering violence to any
person therein; or,
3. When committed in the lawful defense of such person, or of a
wife or husband, parent, child, master, mistress, or servant of such
person, when there is reasonable ground to apprehend a design to
commit a felony or to do some great bodily injury, and imminent
danger of such design being accomplished; but such person, or the
person in whose behalf the defense was made, if he was the assailant
or engaged in mutual combat, must really and in good faith have
endeavored to decline any further struggle before the homicide was
committed; or,
4. When necessarily committed in attempting, by lawful ways and
means, to apprehend any person for any felony committed, or in
lawfully suppressing any riot, or in lawfully keeping and preserving
the peace.
Citizens shoot unarmed attackers all the time and its a good thing they do.
Here’s how my concealed carry course put it: in Texas, if you are in an altercation and use deadly force in the form of a gun, you will most likely be vindicated (although he pointed out several examples where that wasn’t the case). It’s just very difficult to get a conviction in Texas against someone using a firearm to drop someone else engaged in thuggish behavior.
That said, you almost certainly will have to spend extravagantly to defend that shoot. Your justified use of a firearm as lethal force is a FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLAR event. And. Given the ensuing disruption to your life, that’s not nearly the only cost. Now, add back in the unpredictability of the legal system, and using a firearm, legally, is more disruptive than anything that can happen in your life just short of being exposed to lethal force against you.
You had better be facing lethal force when you shoot, or you have just made a costly choice by comparison...
sarcasm
What percentage of rape victims were attacked by an “unarmed” rapist?
The entire point of carrying a firearm is to even the odds against attackers who are better prepared to assault you physically. If all the perps in the world were 5 year old girls, we wouldn’t need to carry firearms.
Good exposition of the law(s) pertaining to deadly force.
I do think, however, that cops have it easier in some ways, but harder in others. Cops are supposed to, through use of command presence and tactical smarts, avoid situations where shooting a civilian might become justified.I imagine this is much harder than most stories about poor officer Wilson let on.
In many states a person can use deadly force even if they are not protecting themself or another person from an imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm. For example, in many states a person can use deadly force to stop an arson, kidnapping, burglary of a dwelling place, or sexual assault (other than statutory rape).
Here in the People’s Socialist RepuliK of Illinois (which mirrors California alot!) once a perp turns his back and attempts to flee a situation, the law says we have to let him go. Unfortunately.
“it is merely one of perhaps an infinite number of means of exerting force. “
another is storing force in your mass to unload at a specific point, as Brown was doing.
Big Mike was strong armed.
Is the US about to follow in the ridiculous path of the UK?
This push back by the criminal community is not unexpected as they continue to lose increasing numbers in their ranks.
This is a occupational hazard and they are organizing to increase their workplace safety.
No calls for a work stoppage though!