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To: Zakeet

I thought it was illegal to hire illegals....

Now it is illegal to hire illegals if you ask if they are illegals and they are illegals....????

So it is now illegal to follow the law... I am confused as hell here...


2 posted on 09/02/2014 1:30:52 PM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: GraceG

The Obama Criminal Organization is in charge


3 posted on 09/02/2014 1:32:37 PM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: GraceG

Just another DOJ-organized “shake-down” of an honest business...


5 posted on 09/02/2014 1:34:02 PM PDT by pfony1 (Add just 6 GOP Senators and we "bury" Harry)
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To: GraceG

A lawful permanent resident’s card expires, but their right to work is permanent, and in this case Culinaire was requiring employees to present a renewed permanent resident card to be verified as work-eligible. The Justice Department claimed this violated a provision in the INA that prohibits employers from requiring extra documentation from non-citizen employees.


13 posted on 09/02/2014 1:39:28 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: GraceG

Leftists WANT it to become illegal to follow the law -

how else can they control everything?


15 posted on 09/02/2014 1:40:56 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: GraceG

Talk about damned if you do and damned if you don’t. You can now be fined for following the law.


20 posted on 09/02/2014 1:47:58 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: GraceG

“We are living in the age of insanity.” - George Putnam


30 posted on 09/02/2014 1:56:49 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a stBut is it grammatically catement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: GraceG

“Now it is illegal to hire illegals if you ask if they are illegals and they are illegals....????”

Yes, such a circumstance would be Kafkaesque, but this has little to do with legalities of hiring illegals.

From the story, it would appear that all they employees were working here legally.


33 posted on 09/02/2014 1:59:12 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: GraceG

“I thought it was illegal to hire illegals....”

They are not illegals. They are permanent residents of the US. The expiration of the card does not invalidate their residency.


34 posted on 09/02/2014 1:59:13 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: GraceG

Let me get this straight. A person who has been born here and is a U.S. citizen has to offer as much proof of employment eligibility as a non citizen? So the government puts a substantial burden on U.S. citizens and U.S. businesses, nothing hostile there.


37 posted on 09/02/2014 2:01:32 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: GraceG

Hang on it is illegal to hire illegals.

I only hope we take the senate, and then reverse a lot of damage the white house and Holder has done.


41 posted on 09/02/2014 2:06:26 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: GraceG

What this is really about is making certain people supply more information than others. For example, if you simply accept Mr. Whitebread at his word and give him work with the bare minimum of required ID but require Mr. Enchilada to supply everything on the I9 list, that is discriminatory . The I9 form says to supply this and that or simply that. If you make any employee supply both the and and the or items, that is wrong.

The other thing I ran into is if you think a document is a forgery you may NOT refuse it. You are not considered to be an expert on forged documents and will be sued. I had an employee who had a SSN that was multi-colored and was advised to accept it. I was strongly condemned on this site for doing so, but as you see, there are hefty fines and when fines are not paid, businesses are shut down and offenders jailed and even when you retaliate against federal authorities, like the man who shot FDA inspectors at his sausage factory, you are roundly criticized.

What does work is to tell an employee his SSN is bad. I noticed when we got letters from SSN with a looooong list of bad SSn numbers, most offending employees feared deportation and left (as you well know that was extremely unlikely). The other thing we accidentally found out works is for the Fed Trapper to come out in his official vehicle and uniform and sound a siren to call for coyotes. When he did that more than half of the laborers ran never to return.


48 posted on 09/02/2014 2:25:46 PM PDT by rey
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To: GraceG

I worked in HR and payroll for years and was required to verify I-9 information to prove employment eligibility.
But you have to do it for both citizens and non citizens.

http://www.uscis.gov/i-9 :

Form I-9 is used for verifying the identity and employment authorization of individuals hired for employment in the United States. All U.S. employers must ensure proper completion of Form I-9 for each individual they hire for employment in the United States. This includes citizens and noncitizens. Both employees and employers (or authorized representatives of the employer) must complete the form. On the form, an employee must attest to his or her employment authorization. The employee must also present his or her employer with acceptable documents evidencing identity and employment authorization


49 posted on 09/02/2014 2:27:27 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: GraceG

settlement is for those who are LEGALLY here.


61 posted on 09/02/2014 3:09:26 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: GraceG

It is illegal to hire illegals. It is also illegal to ask about a prospective employee’s citizenship. If you refuse to hire an illegal or ask about his citizenship you will be prosecuted. If you hire the illegal you will be prosecuted if you do something that Holder disapproves of if you are someone that Holder disapproves of. If an illegal alien applies to work for you, you have committed a felony by the mere fact of the application.


66 posted on 09/02/2014 4:22:58 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: GraceG
Three Felonies a Day-Harry Silverglate
67 posted on 09/02/2014 4:24:58 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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