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To: Obadiah
great ally and NATO member

That they've let ISIS roam free and even use Turkish medical services is disturbing.

Turkey's got a problem. A big chunk of Turkey is Kurdish, and the US is upgrading the Pershmega who I'd think will before long use their new skills and weapons to build a bigger, better Kurdistan. That would have the US allied with both sides (Turkey and the Kurds) and still arming the "friendly rebels" in Syria. YIKES!

Meanwhile, on the Black Sea, the Kiev gov is creating chaos. If Russia doesn't prevail there, what's to stop radical Islam's spread into eastern Europe through Ukraine?

It's hard to imagine how this ends well, unless the US does a 180 and supports Assad and stops doing what the Saudis, Kuwait and Qatar want.

31 posted on 09/11/2014 11:51:30 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania

Don’t forget who he bows to.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/5128171/Barack-Obama-criticised-for-bowing-to-King-Abdullah-of-Saudi-Arabia.html


35 posted on 09/11/2014 11:54:47 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: grania; Enlightened1
There are multiple issues.

The Iranian regime doesn't trust Obama or its admin. One because they believe Obama (along with the Saudis and company) hasn't given up on his original objective of overthrowing Assad. Other is that Obama admin and the US in general are seen to be on the side of Sunnis and particularly Sunni states such as S. Arabia (Iran's main rival in that region). Therefore, by default Islamic State (IS) too, who are sunnis, even if a few members of the Saudi ruling class fear IS might directly attack the House of Saud & other (leaders of) Sheikhdoms in the Gulf region. But until that actually happens, the Iranians would at least assume IS can negotiate with the Saudis & the leadership of the Gulf states. Whereas IS will absolutely not do so with the Iranian regime.

I don't think the Turkish govt for now has a problem with the Kurds in Iraqi Kurdistan. After all, Kurds are relatively a minority ethnic group in the Arab world, and Turkey, should 'push come to shove'.

Iran has a large Kurdish population too. But ethnically the Kurds share deep roots (racially, culturally and linguistically) with most Iranians, and have ALWAYS allied with Iran (even the shia Islamic regime, although Kurds are sunni) when fighting the Arabs or the Turks.

Overall, I think most, if not all, sunni Islamic countries (Arab and Turkish) are reluctant and fearful of taking part or overtly supporting an attack against IS, because many of their citizens are either pro-IS or can become so, should a direct attack take place. Would be hard to contain their own people.

It's a very tricky situation and multi-layered. But a main issue, for now, for the Iranians and to some extent Turks, is that of trusting the motives & intentions of the US and Obama administration in particular.

212 posted on 09/16/2014 6:47:51 PM PDT by odds
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