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"Snowden Belongs in Jail, Not in Switzerland"
Foreign Policy ^ | 9/12/14 | John Hudson

Posted on 09/12/2014 4:38:58 PM PDT by babylon_times

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To: Chickensoup
Freedom is NOT free. Snowden has paid a huge price in an effort to protect freedom.

Kudos Mr. Snowden. I salute your sacrifice.

41 posted on 09/12/2014 7:01:15 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Lazamataz

Well, the points you bring up are excellent examples of violating natural law.

I believe a government, who perpetually spies upon Americans and violate even more natural rights like the 1st, 2nd, particularly the 4th and 5th, the 14th and 10th are amoral acts commited not, by some inanimate object but, by people who act above the law, subverting it, and “consuming” your rights along the way.

Was there a more elegant way for Snowden to object and bring this to the light for fellow Americans to see?

I don’t think so.

I also believe it went to level of conspiracy, which compounds it.

You and I are from similar backgrounds in our respective careers.

I get your view and take on this but, the alternative to a Snowden probably doesn’t exist.

The government hasn’t the right to pursue criminals while violating our rights and at its basic level and the mindset of this administration that is what we are dealing with.

The sedition act was a gross violation of our rights, as was the internment of Japanese Americans.

So too the Tuskegee experiments amd many others.


42 posted on 09/12/2014 7:01:47 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Vendome
I think we mostly agree. That's why I like you, you are a thinker. My bar is set a little higher than Snowden's, so if I had encountered that particular information first, my response would have been to quit my job, and the United States, in disgust.

I would have taken the information to my grave.

However, Powers That Be: DO NOT let me see evidence of murder or injury, relocation or imprisonment of people in a manner that violates their Natural Rights or the Rights enumerated in the BOR. Just do us both a favor.

43 posted on 09/12/2014 7:07:57 PM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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To: Lazamataz

The Congressional Medal of Honor, a long prison sentence, the Nobel Peace Prize, heavy fines and a street named after him in the country of his choice.


44 posted on 09/12/2014 7:08:24 PM PDT by Brother Cracker (You are more likely to find krugerrands in a Cracker Jack box then 22 ammo at Wal-Mart)
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To: Brother Cracker
The Congressional Medal of Honor, a long prison sentence, the Nobel Peace Prize, heavy fines and a street named after him in the country of his choice.

The Congressional Medal of Honor, a long prison sentence, the Nobel Peace Prize, heavy fines, a street named after him in the country of his choice, and 40 lashes in Singapore.

Balance.

:)

45 posted on 09/12/2014 7:11:04 PM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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To: babylon_times

Snowden EXPOSED a shadow givernment...

A shadow many/most DO NOT WANT to see..
They see the alleged givernment not the real one..

The federal givernment you think you have..
IS NOT the federal givernment that is..

It is FUBAR ......... ON PURPOSE...
sucking the blood out of the Republic...

creating a democracy..


Democracy is the road to socialism. -Karl Marx

Democracy is indispensable to socialism.
The goal of socialism is communism. -V.I. Lenin

The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism .-Karl Marx


46 posted on 09/12/2014 7:17:59 PM PDT by hosepipe (" This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole.. ")
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To: Lazamataz

That would be a Caning in Singapore and 40 whacks would kill him.

Balance?


47 posted on 09/12/2014 7:20:26 PM PDT by Brother Cracker (You are more likely to find krugerrands in a Cracker Jack box then 22 ammo at Wal-Mart)
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To: Lazamataz

Are we done with this thread?


48 posted on 09/12/2014 7:21:04 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Brother Cracker

Alright, 5 whacks.


49 posted on 09/12/2014 7:30:14 PM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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To: Vendome

Let’s talk about sailing ships, particularly Man-o-Wars.


50 posted on 09/12/2014 7:30:53 PM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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To: Lazamataz

Like the Enterprise and The Constitution?

I like it.


51 posted on 09/12/2014 7:36:56 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Lazamataz

BTW, I was at my lodge in observance of our Constitution.

I won both contests...or rather, came in second place in one.

We were asked what otblher day is celebrated concurrently with Constition Day.

I yelled out “My Birthday”.

“Wrong answer” cane the reply.

“Oh yeah? You call my Mom next Wednesday and tell her that!” I responded.

“You burned your response. Anyone have the answer?” They asked...

I muttered to the person next to me “Citizenship Day” and they yelled it out.

LOL

I done got cheated....


52 posted on 09/12/2014 7:42:35 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Vendome

LOL ya wild man


53 posted on 09/12/2014 7:53:40 PM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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To: Lazamataz

Punks...LOL


54 posted on 09/12/2014 8:01:27 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Lazamataz
I think he did us all a huge service

Absolutely. He did.

He also did us all a huge disservice.

If all he did, was expose the NSA spying on Americans, he did us a service. I am not sure if we know the extent of what else he may have revealed yet, but If he also compromised legitimate intelligence gathering operations, and has gotten American and allied agents killed, that is not good. Laz, have you heard of any details in this area?

55 posted on 09/13/2014 2:04:17 AM PDT by Mark17 (If I have a son, I am going to name him Bill, George, Sue, anything but Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: Vendome
We should have a clandestine system to watch our enemies amd eventually confront them judicially or by means of war but, it cannot come at the expense of our rights and violate that which is God given and spelled out specifically as the right of the people.

Well put.

56 posted on 09/13/2014 2:11:43 AM PDT by Mark17 (If I have a son, I am going to name him Bill, George, Sue, anything but Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: Lazamataz
His *motivations* deserve a Medal of Freedom. His *actions* deserve prosecution.

Perhaps a bit of proof that "The law is an ass" is an apropos statement...

57 posted on 09/13/2014 3:47:51 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: babylon_times

You don’t need an I.Q. higher than a turnip to know that the UNOFFICIAL customers for any NSA generated data was globalist fascist capital as defined in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfpO-WBz_mw


58 posted on 09/13/2014 10:19:53 AM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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