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Islamic State: “We will conquer your Rome, break your crosses, and enslave your women [...]
Jihad Watch ^ | Sept 21, 2014 | Robert Spencer, ISIS

Posted on 09/21/2014 5:27:48 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer

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To: Chode

61 posted on 09/21/2014 7:26:52 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: virgil

Ah, Mr. Nutria, with his “I’m pleased as punch to sink my very big teeth into you” personality.


62 posted on 09/21/2014 7:28:06 PM PDT by Darksheare (People who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: righttackle44

Heh heh heh.
;-)


63 posted on 09/21/2014 7:28:55 PM PDT by Darksheare (People who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Zhang Fei

“If they had technological and economic parity, we’d be speaking Arabic and bowing towards Mecca. “

Fortunately, I don’t see how a Bedouin war religion is ever going to keep up scientifically or economically. At some point, Obama will just be a bad memory and we will start the killing machines.


64 posted on 09/21/2014 7:31:17 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
Love is always greater than hate. Always, without exception. The jihadi’s aren't motivated by love, and if it ever gets to the point at which we feel we need to give our own lives to protect our children, the jihadists will learn a very, very important lesson about what is truly the greatest motivation. I guarantee this. They will never, ever win. That is not even a slight question.

Too late, the Imperial Japanese Army and Navy learned this in World War 2. Turns out, American Marines, soldiers, sailors, pilots, and Commonwealth forces were braver and more courageous than the Japanese aggressors...and love of country and their buddie with them in the foxhole proved stronger than the authoritarian hatred of the Imperial Japanese Military.

Memo to Muzzie Terror Thugs- we dealt with hate-filled fanatics before willing to die for their false god, and we have rough men more than willing to oblige you.

65 posted on 09/21/2014 7:34:48 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Ob)
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To: Vince Ferrer

The Crusaders knew how to handle these fanatics. How long will PC, Muliculturalism of the Left keep us from fighting this foe? How many need to die? How many more good Americans will be decapitated before we realize we are in a war.


66 posted on 09/21/2014 7:50:31 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
The Crusaders knew how to handle these fanatics. How long will PC, Muliculturalism of the Left keep us from fighting this foe? How many need to die? How many more good Americans will be decapitated before we realize we are in a war.

If you research the past islamic invasions, you'll notice that the Christians acted almost the same as we are now. The only Christians motivated to fight, with an absolute clear vision of islam, were the ones at the border between Christian lands and islamic lands. Other Christians farther away were more indifferent, more concerned with their own petty squables that no one even remembers today. Only occasionally did they band together and fight.

If they had all fought totally committed, we wouldn't be fighting them today. Not we have to learn the same lessons, and finally commit to winning.

67 posted on 09/21/2014 8:01:22 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Ha IS, our women will rejoice in their liberation. They know it is better to have snipaclitectomies, wear burkas and have there man spin around to divorce them, than, be denied birth control by the evil Republicans.


68 posted on 09/21/2014 8:01:42 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Thank you for posting. I read every word. This is why I carry (CCW) EVERYWHERE I go.

They will strike us here. First will be soft targets like schools, malls, churches etc.

Maybe America will wake up, turn of Dancing with the Stars and realize what dangers our country is really facing.

Maybe the Generals will gather in a secret meeting and FINALLY decide that the time has come for them to actually do their sworn duty to get 0bama out of the White House.

Wishful thinking on my part, I know.


69 posted on 09/21/2014 8:03:12 PM PDT by panaxanax
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To: Vince Ferrer

Yes, it was worth it. Informative.


70 posted on 09/21/2014 9:55:14 PM PDT by kelly4c (http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2900389%2C41#help)
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To: Zhang Fei
If they had technological and economic parity, we'd be speaking Arabic and bowing towards Mecca.

Good thing they banned mathematics in their schools.

71 posted on 09/21/2014 9:59:54 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: JohnBrowdie

“I’d like to send them a 50,000 megaton present for Ramadan.”

Wow. Trying bring about the next major extinction event?

I think a mere 10-20 megatons would be sufficient, centered in and around Mecca...


72 posted on 09/21/2014 10:03:40 PM PDT by LaRueLaDue
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To: Vince Ferrer; Robert Spencer

OUTSTANDING post! Thanks. HOORAY Robert Spencer!


73 posted on 09/21/2014 11:42:13 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Steely Tom

On this side, though, there are millions of us who would love nothing better than getting one of these jihadists in the cross hairs/ sights and pull the trigger....as many times as it takes to have them assume room temperature.
How we would be able to accomplish this and how soon is the main thought on so many of our minds.


74 posted on 09/22/2014 12:13:47 AM PDT by Islander2
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To: Vince Ferrer

That’s so 17th century.


75 posted on 09/22/2014 1:38:05 AM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

come on Israel,
Nuke these Godless mookabookers.


76 posted on 09/22/2014 2:38:21 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: Caipirabob
slamic State: “We will conquer your Rome, break your crosses, and enslave your women Quite frankly, y'all can have Barbara Streisand...

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Why does ISIS refer to the "break your crosses"?

They got it from Mohammad the Prophet himself.

NOTE: I'm a devout Christian. I believe that Mohammad was either mentally sick or made up the whole Islam thing on purpose.

The Koran: As many of us know, is the Islam holy book. Mohammad claims that the angel Gabriel appeared to him over several years while he was in a trance and told him to "read" this message that Allah told Gabriel to reveal to Mohammad.

The reason why God picked Mohammad about 600 years after the birth of Christ was this: Christians had perverted Jesus' teaching over the centuries.

For instance, according to Islam, Jesus never claimed to be God the Son, and Christians really screwed things up when it came up with a wild belief in a Trinity.

Hadith: This is a sacred collection of Mohammed's sayings and teachings, most of them deal with how to conduct your everyday life.

The Hadith was given to Muslims while Mohammad was NOT in a trance.

Still, Islam believes that they were divinely inspired like the Koran was divinely inspired.

The breaking of the cross: In the Hadith, Mohammad says that Jesus will return at the last days to judge mankind. While Jesus is NOT not God, according to Islam, Allah will give Jesus special powers to judge Man in the last days.

One of the first things Jesus will do is 'break the cross", referring to Christianity, because according to the Holy Koran, Jesus was never crucified. So Jesus will destroy/break all the crosses as punishment for anyone who dared to believe and teach the dogma of the Trinity and the big lie that Jesus was crucified.

Hadith: Here is one Hadith passage where Mohammad talks about Jesus returning on the last day to judge mankind. This is the Hadith passage----there are several such passage in the Hadith collection---that ISIS is referring to when it talks about "breaking the crosses":

0287 Sahih Muslim. Sahih Muslim is one collector of Mohammad's sayings and teachings who is highly respected by Moslems:

Abu Huraira reported that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: By Him in Whose hand is my life, the son of Mary (may peace be upon him) will soon descend among you as a just judge. He will break crosses, kill swine and abolish Jizya and the wealth will pour forth to such an extent that no one will accept it.

ISIS: So you can see that ISIS' reference is not original. Rather, the message came from the Prophet himself.

77 posted on 09/22/2014 3:27:22 AM PDT by john mirse
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To: john mirse

Great post!


78 posted on 09/22/2014 3:35:53 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Zhang Fei
Compare maps from the peak of Islamic rule including from before and the after the four Crusades. As you know, this is one of the reasons the jihadists say they are fighting - to regain those lands they lost since they initially conquered them. If not for the discovery of large oil reserves on what they were left with, there wouldn't be much of a threat right now.

The ‘turn the other cheek’ non-violence aspect of Christianity is one of the reasons Islamist militants had success in their initial take-over of Christian lands. This short-term ‘advantage’ is lost over time - because turn the other cheek does not mean you have to commit suicide - which is what not defeating the Muslim extremists would be. Christianity doesn't promote suicide.

I agree with your basic premise that technological advancement is a very important aspect of being able to defend yourself as a nation, and losing this advantage would make things much more difficult. However, even with much more technological advancement than they now have, radical Islamists will never rule the world in a grand Caliphate. Won't ever happen. Could they cause the deaths of millions in their attempt to do this? Absolutely. Would they use weapons of mass destruction indiscriminately if they think it will bring them to their goal? Of course they would. Doesn't matter. They have zero chance (which is kind of ironic, given that it was the Arabic world that promoted the concept of zero in math).

They aren't as motivated as we are. Not even close. I know that they think they are much more motivated, but they aren't, and this is a huge weakness that they don't seem to have the capacity to understand. Giving your life for love is always a bigger motivation than dying for hate, or because you think you are going to get some ridiculous personal reward in heaven - like 72 virgins.

I'm not minimizing the threat, at all. The ones who are minimizing and who don't really get it are the jihadists.

79 posted on 09/22/2014 10:57:52 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: MuttTheHoople

Well said.


80 posted on 09/22/2014 10:59:00 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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