[cripplecreek]

I assumed the independence movement in Scotland was a conservative leaning thing till I started paying attention. They were talking about the Brits like the left talks about tea partiers. They were saying that brits are “europhobic” and anti immigrant racists.

[colorado tanker]

You are absolutely right. The movement was run by lefties who think Labour is too conservative. I was actually ambivalent about this one because getting Scotland out of the Union would have left a solid Conservative majority in the remaining constituencies.

The independent, self reliant Scots we think of in America from our own Scottish and Scotch-Irish immigrants is long gone, a thing of the past.