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Submit Your Comments on the EPA’s Power Plant Rule
friends.channeldemocracy.com ^ | 10/1/2014 | Unknown

Posted on 10/01/2014 8:19:41 AM PDT by rktman

EPA has proposed one of the largest, most expensive regulations in American history. These rules will impact our entire economy, hurt America’s diverse energy portfolio, and result in higher electricity prices while having little benefit to the environment. EPA is asking for public comment on this vast, regulatory overreach between now and December 1, 2014. We need you to share your views with EPA by sending the letter below, or using the open space to personally tell EPA how higher energy prices will impact you, your business, and your family.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: electricity; electricrates; epa; epaoutofcontrol; gangreen; govtcontrol; powerplants; warmunists
I know most of us have a strong disagreement with the U.S. Chamber on their stance on just about everything, but maybe, with an emphasis on maybe, this will get to somebody who cares. I have my doubts because the epa mostly does whatever it feels like and doesn't give two hoots what their charges think. And they are in charge with few exceptions. I guess there isn't anyone in charge that would dare defund these asshats at this point.
1 posted on 10/01/2014 8:19:41 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

Environmentalists finally have the Power to send the US back to the Stone Age ,with help from Obama’s Muslims


2 posted on 10/01/2014 8:30:50 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: rktman
All legislation should be reviewed for necessity, effectiveness and cost/benefit.
EPA seems to be exempt from all three.
All legislation should go through congress, no separate department should have the power to make law.

3 posted on 10/01/2014 8:33:36 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: molson209

LOL! Just tryin’ to level the playing field I guess. If they don’t have power, we shouldn’t either. It’s only fair right? Uh, no thanks.


4 posted on 10/01/2014 8:34:01 AM PDT by rktman ("The only thing dumber than a brood hen is a New York democrat." Mother Abagail.)
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To: BitWielder1

All EPA rules which will affect grid capacity
need to be required to be “megawatt neutral” -

ie, they can’t take any currently operating plant offline until a megawatt equivalent is online.


5 posted on 10/01/2014 8:35:48 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: BitWielder1

Nah. The epa just imposes rules and regs and requirements that carry the weight of law. Kinda weird huh. I suppose now that mud puddles can be covered by the epa, any water anywhere, be it river, stream, lake, pond, ocean, dry creekbed, arroyo, bucket, discarded tire or anything that “might” hold water will, henceforth, be simply be classified a “body of water” so that it’s covered by them.


6 posted on 10/01/2014 8:40:12 AM PDT by rktman ("The only thing dumber than a brood hen is a New York democrat." Mother Abagail.)
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To: rktman; Jim Robinson; thackney

Keep in mind that the EPA considers individual comments as “outliers”. Thta is just how it works.

I recommend aligning yourself with an industry group or other “action committee” that agrees with your views.

It may be prudent to convene a FreeRepublic committee to contribute to these Federal rules.

The unfortunate part would be that it would cost money that is better used to keep FR up-and-running.


7 posted on 10/01/2014 8:42:09 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

LOL! So basically your telling us that our comments get tossed in to the “denier” round file. Man, those warmunists think of eva thang.


8 posted on 10/01/2014 8:45:33 AM PDT by rktman ("The only thing dumber than a brood hen is a New York democrat." Mother Abagail.)
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To: rktman

Unfortunately, yes. Individual comments get minimized/marginalized.

Reflect that, when the Sierra Club sends a comment, they reference their 150,000+ membership. That’s 150,000 votes that can change the local vote outcome...by a wide margin.


9 posted on 10/01/2014 8:50:33 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: MrB
“megawatt neutral”

Not good enough as long as they don't have to care about the cost of the replacement.

Yea, if you're not someone who knows someone important,like Al Gore or Barbara Streisand, then your opinion is worth zilch.
So much for equality and the voice of the common man.

10 posted on 10/01/2014 9:04:01 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: BitWielder1

They can “not care” about the cost all they want,
but they ain’t shutting down plant A until plant B comes online.


11 posted on 10/01/2014 9:05:12 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Passing Regulation that requires expensive solar replacing cheap coal is not acceptable, even if the Solar comes on line before the coal is shut down.


12 posted on 10/01/2014 9:21:50 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: rktman; All
FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

As mentioned in related threads, with the exception of the federal entities listed in the Constitution's Clause 17 of Section 8 of Article I as examples, entities under the exclusive legislative control of Congress, the states have never delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to decide policy for intrastate environmental issues. With all due respect to family and friends of the late President Nixon, he was wrong to sign the bill that established the EPA into law.

In fact, note that the Supreme Court has clarified in general that powers not expressly delegated to the feds via the Constitution, the power to decide policy for intrastate environmental issues in this example, are prohibited to the feds.

”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.

If Nixon had really wanted the feds to have the constitutional authority to decide policy for environmental issues then he should have done the following. Nixon needed to encourage Congress to propose an environmental protection amendment to the Constitution to the states for ratification. And if the states had chosen to ratify Nixon's amendment then the feds would have the constitutional authority that they need to decide policy for intrastate environmental issues and Nixon would be a hero.

13 posted on 10/01/2014 9:39:01 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Amendment10

Sadly, it’s gotten to the point that certain agencies could give two craps about what the constitution or congress have to say. Above the law? In their eyes they are.


14 posted on 10/01/2014 9:44:55 AM PDT by rktman ("The only thing dumber than a brood hen is a New York democrat." Mother Abagail.)
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To: molson209

Along with my electric bill this month was a notice that electric rates will increase by 8.5% on 1/1/15. Why? According to the explanation given, rates needed to be increased to cover the environmental requirements that have come down from both the Federal and California governments. In California, we can thank Arnold and Moonbeam, and of course for the Feds, it is Obama and his environmental bureaucrats. I have a feeling the 8.5% increase is just the beginning.


15 posted on 10/01/2014 9:47:35 AM PDT by CdMGuy
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To: rktman

Most of these regulations are being foisted upon us by lobby interests (environuts in california via sierra club, nat gas speculators, banning coal, nuclear, hydro, etc), and they are running the energy economy straight into the ground for fun and profit.

Wanna beat them at their own game?

Cut off california and the northeast from the electrical grids, along with shutting down all of the oil and nat gas pipelines to those regions, and stop all rail shipments of coal, oil, and propane to those areas too. When they revolt, just tell them that they are merely getting what the EPA, and their environmental lobbyists wanted, so tough shit, freeze in the dark, fry in the heat, and suffer the consequences of the fools you put in charge.


16 posted on 10/01/2014 10:31:59 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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