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Why a travel ban wouldn’t work
Politico ^ | Oct 16th, 2014 | By HEATHER CAYGLE and KATHRYN A. WOLFE

Posted on 10/16/2014 7:56:07 PM PDT by Mariner

he political momentum for a travel ban on West African nations continued to swell Thursday, but health and transportation experts were uniform in saying it wouldn’t stem the spread of Ebola — and could do more harm than good.

That hasn’t stopped politicians and pundits — ranging from House Speaker John Boehner to former Obama press secretary Jay Carney — from calling for a travel ban. The appeal is obvious: It sounds like a no-brainer to build an infectious-disease moat around the U.S., blocking some flights and barring people who come from the countries suffering the worst Ebola outbreaks.

But the reality, the experts say, is that those kinds of measures have failed before. And this time, experts inside and outside the administration warned, throttling travel would hammer already devastated West African countries, make it difficult to send relief where it’s needed, and send an unknown number of infected travelers into the shadows, increasing the difficulty of knowing how many were entering the U.S.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ebola; ebolatravel; hangthemhigh; liberalism; mentaldisorder; obola; plane; politicobias; quarantine; travelban
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To: robert14

“Their argumemt makes no sense. If someone sneaks across a border in Africa and tries to use his home country passport to board an airplane, wouldn’t we see his home country on his passport? If he gets to another country and flys to Belgium wouldn’t we see his home country when he tried to board? Can someone explain to me how someone could sneak across a border in Africa and then sneak onto a commercial airplane? I guess he could buy a fake passport but how many people would be able to that in 8 to 10 days without a fever? Not very many. I am sure our custom folks would be able to see thru most of them anyway.”

It doesn’t. Homeland Security has said that NO ONE legally enters this country without them knowing their travel history. If they come into JFK, THEY CAN BE SPOTTED and they can be turned back (at the airline’s expense), should we institute a ban.

That part is not debatable.


61 posted on 10/16/2014 9:17:36 PM PDT by BobL (Don't forget - Today's Russians learn math WITHOUT calculators.)
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To: Mariner
Why a travel ban wouldn’t work perfectly

The famous "Demand for Perfection"-Fallacy!

"Because a proposed solution isn't entirely without drawbacks, it must be rejected."

Regards,

62 posted on 10/16/2014 9:17:51 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Mariner

Abstinance will lead to more pregnancies.
Securing the border will lead to more illegal immigration.

These people in the administration, politico included, are dangerous idiots. They actually believe what they are saying.


63 posted on 10/16/2014 9:25:46 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: TigerClaws
“Don’t they have passports to enter the U.S.?”

Bingo! I keep hearing dems make this statement as a reason a travel ban would not work and it is complete BS! Who cares if they break up their travel. They still have to have a Visa and Passport to enter the US. All we need to do is cancel all Visa's from West Africa and they will never be able to board a plane to the US.

My prediction, a travel ban is coming. Let a couple more people get Ebola or a new traveler from West Africa get into the US and come down with Ebola and even the chosen one, Obama, will have to relent. In fact, he is already setting himself up to changing his mind when he said today, “if” the experts think we should change our process and procedure “I” will. See it wasn't his idea not to have a travel ban, it was the experts....

64 posted on 10/16/2014 9:37:51 PM PDT by martinidon
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To: Mariner

Another article with John Boehner and others “calling for something to be done, a travel ban.”
Since he’s the speaker of the house you’d think he might know, um, someone to call .... instead, we get more harrumphing.


65 posted on 10/16/2014 9:38:35 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: BobL

So. Obama is lying again. But why? This decision will most likely explode in his face. Then what? He blames it on the CDC and hundreds of our citizens are dead and our economy is in ruins? Why? This is crazy.


66 posted on 10/16/2014 9:39:16 PM PDT by robert14 (cng)
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To: Mariner

Only flights coming in and out for supplies are allowed. If flights are allowed, the passengers will be required to spend 21 days in quarantine.


67 posted on 10/16/2014 9:44:12 PM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: Thunder90

You are correct. That is the solution.


68 posted on 10/16/2014 9:46:10 PM PDT by robert14 (cng)
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To: robert14

“Why”

The answer is OBVIOUS. It’s the November election, now less than 3 weeks away. Keep it under wraps until then - a few innocent nurses, still nothing compared to the DOZENS OF PEOPLE that died to make sure that Bill Clinton had a clean shot to the White House and then to re-election.

By DEMOCRAT reasoning, a small price to pay. And they simply don’t have the ability to look at Miss Pham as anything other than an impediment to trying to hold on to power.

But things will get interesting...as Ebola doesn’t believe in sitting out elections.


69 posted on 10/16/2014 9:47:08 PM PDT by BobL (Don't forget - Today's Russians learn math WITHOUT calculators.)
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To: Mariner; All

The question isn’t whether or not a travel ban would work. We’re not looking for an on/off switch for ebola.

The point is that a travel ban would probably significantly reduce the risk of citizens getting ebola in my non-medical opinion.


70 posted on 10/16/2014 9:53:05 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Mariner

Jewish Ghettos, isolated, were not affected by the plague. Will these people ever refer to history instead of vague reports of “dont work, wont work, blablabla”?


71 posted on 10/16/2014 10:00:03 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: slumber1

The antisemites getting the plague did the same to jews, throwing bodies over the walls of gated ghettos.

Politico practices Nazism traditionalite.


72 posted on 10/16/2014 10:08:59 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: Mariner

If, in response to the exponential outbreak in West Africa known to US intel 9 months ago, all flights and/or passengers originating from West Africa would have been barred from entering the US under ANY conditions— why then by God nobody would have been infected here.

The lack of understanding of this simple expedient- proven time and again in disease vector control-is explained by the PC mental contortions needed to ignore the obvious for the sake of “fairness” and world peace. Bollocks.

Only moron libs could get their minds around the mindset that says “you cannot get ebola from riding on a bus, but someone with ebola riding on the bus can infect someone else”, and then to apply that perigrination on the head of a pin to our sacred country. Diseased minds working for a truly demented leadership.


73 posted on 10/16/2014 10:15:38 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Mariner
Seal off Africa, no one out and anyone that can't keep themselves from going to aid victims, don't get back out either!!! No one out until there hasn't been an obola case for 6 months!!!
74 posted on 10/16/2014 10:23:05 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Mariner

Are their editorial meetings still in Nancy Pelosi’s office or has Politico moved to the OFA building?


75 posted on 10/17/2014 1:47:07 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: Mariner
And this time, experts inside and outside the administration warned, throttling travel would hammer already devastated West African countries, make it difficult to send relief where it’s needed, and send an unknown number of infected travelers into the shadows, increasing the difficulty of knowing how many were entering the U.S.

BullSh*t, Bullsh*t, BULLSH*T!

76 posted on 10/17/2014 1:59:54 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: harwood

Yeesh.....

77 posted on 10/17/2014 2:02:10 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: robert14

78 posted on 10/17/2014 2:04:55 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Inyo-Mono
...and send an unknown number of infected travelers into the shadows...

OHMIGAWD! Not the dreaded shadows that all those poor undocumenteds (i.e. Illegal Immigrants) are forced to live in!

79 posted on 10/17/2014 2:08:49 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Inyo-Mono
...and send an unknown number of infected travelers into the shadows...

And if they're infected, they won't be in the shadows long. They'll soon be dead!

80 posted on 10/17/2014 2:10:58 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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