[phormer phrog phlyer]

Any bets on how long it will take to go bad?

[John W]

I take by the end of this year in the pool.

[Lurker]

Less than 30 days. Any takers?

[KC_Conspirator]

6 months.

[PistolPaknMama]

You know ISIS is frothing at the bit.

[FreedomPoster]

When did it ever get good?

Trying to civilize the savages of Afghanistan is perhaps the best real-world example of tilting at windmills one can provide. The West has over 2000 years of history verifying this, going back to Alexander. We should have been gone no later than 2003, after the punitive expedition phase, and never have started the ongoing meals on wheels phase we are wrapping up now.